The Death of DevOps, with Andrew Clay Shafer

About this Episode

In case you haven't heard, DevOps is dead. Again. To discuss its demise, Coté talks with Andrew Clay Shafer. They talk about a lot more: Andrew's new company, working with executives, sociotechnical systems, Andrew's recent SREcon talk in Amsterdam, and more.

You can also watch the live recording of this episoded, unedited! It has a discussion of Coté's podcast making recommendations at the start.

Check out Andrew and friend's new company, Ergonautic, and, find him in Twitter as @littleidea.