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Alternate Titles
I've seen this hot-dog before.
I’ve been doing this since dickity-4
I’m sticking with the Mary Meeker slides, you nerds go figure it out
Mid-roll
Pivotal Cloud-native workshop in DC, June 7th (http://connect.pivotal.io/Cloud-Native-Strategy-Workshop-DC.html).
LOOK, MA! I PUT IN DATES! DevOpsDays Minneapolis, July 25 to 26th: get 20% off registration with the code SDT (https://devopsdays-minneapolis-2017.eventbrite.com?discount=SDT) (Thanks, Bridget!).
Coté: CF Summit June 13 to 15, 2017 (https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/).
20% off registration code: cfsv17cote
Coté: Want 2 days of Spring knowledge? Check out SpringDays (https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&amp;amp;)
SpringDays.io
Get half-off with the code SpringDays_HalfOff
Chicago (May 30th to 31st) (https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/chicago)
New York (June 20th to 21st) (https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/new-york)
Atlanta (July 18th to 19th) (https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/atlanta)
Hot-dog guy in Japan
Zoom in on that little fellow (https://www.flickr.com/photos/cote/35012640896/).
Internet Trends 2017
300 plus slides of charts (http://www.kpcb.com/internet-trends)
Computes!
Coté’s notebook (https://content.pivotal.io/blog/analysis-of-mary-meeker-s-internet-trends), summary of summary:
Google and Facebook make a lot of ad money.
The Kids like using smart phones, the olds like using traditional telephones. One of them will die sooner.
Voice, image recognition, etc.
China is pretty much a mature market, and it’s huge.
India has potential, but doing business there is hard and you need more Internet in a pocket rollout.
The public/private cloud debate is still far from over.
But, AWS, Microsoft, and Google have pretty much won.
Bonus: there’s surprisingly little funding and exits this year.
Would Amazon sell some private clouds?
Isotoner and Hephaestus - All the new container orchestration poop
Coté: Catching up on all this week's container poop &amp;amp; as always, my first reaction is “oh, I thought the existing stuff did all that already..so."
Managed service for Tectonic as a Service (https://thenewstack.io/coreos-takes-cloud-portability-tectonic-release/) - so, keeping your Kubernates cluster software updated? Presumably enforcing config, etc?
However, not all done, still working on the complete solution.
But, there’s an etcd thing ‘As a first step, Tectonic 1.6.4 will offer the distributed etcd key-value data store as a fully managed cloud service. “It’s the logical one to offer first because it is everything else gets built on it,”  Polvi explained. The data store “guarantees that data is in a consistent state for very specific operations,” he said, referring to how etcd can be essential for operations such as database migrations.’
Another etcd description (https://blog.heptio.com/core-kubernetes-jazz-improv-over-orchestration-a7903ea92ca): “etcd is a clustered database that prizes consistency above partition tolerance… Interestingly, at Google, chubby is most frequently accessed using an abstracted File interface that works across local files, object stores, etc. The highly consistent nature, however, provides for strict ordering of writes and allows clients to do atomic updates of a set of values.
So, you need locks for - dun-dun-dun! - transactions! Queue JP lecturing me in 2002.
Then there’s Istio (http://blog.kubernetes.io/2017/05/managing-microservices-with-istio-service-mesh.html): 
Istio (https://istio.io/)?!
Whao! Check out the exec-pitch (https://istio.io/blog/istio-service-mesh-for-microservices.html): “ Istio gives CIOs a powerful tool to enforce security, policy and compliance requirements across the enterprise.” And Google (https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/05/istio-modern-approach-to-developing-and.html): “Through the Open Service Broker model CIOs can define a catalog of services which may be used within their enterprise and auditing tools to enforce compliance.”
I love their idea of what a CIO does.
“An open platform to connect, manage, and secure microservices“
SDN++ overlay for container orchestrators from Google, IBM &amp;amp; Lyft - once you control the network with the “data plane,” you add in the “control plane” (https://istio.io/docs/concepts/what-is-istio/overview.html#architecture) which allows you to control the flow and shit of the actual microservices.
Tackling the “new problems emerge due to the sheer number of services that exist in a larger system. Problems that had to be solved once for a monolith, like security, load balancing, monitoring, and rate limiting need to be handled for each service.”
And, you know, all the agnostic, multi-cloud, open stuff.
Thankfully, they didn’t use a bunch of garbage, nonsense names for things.
Let’s look at the docs (https://istio.io/docs/concepts/what-is-istio/overview.html) (BTW, can you kids start just putting out PDFs instead of only these auto-generated from markdown web pages?):
First of all, these are good docs.
Monkey-patching for the container era: “You add Istio support to services by deploying a special sidecar proxy throughout your environment that intercepts all network communication between microservices, configured and managed using Istio’s control plane functionality.”
The future! Where we all shall live! “Istio currently only supports service deployment on Kubernetes, though other environments will be supported in future versions.”
Problems being solved, aka, “ways you must be this tall to ride the microservices ride”: “Its requirements can include discovery, load balancing, failure recovery, metrics, and monitoring, and often more complex operational requirements such as A/B testing, canary releases, rate limiting, access control, and end-to-end authentication.”
Also: Traffic Management (https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/overview.html), Observability, Policy Enforcement, Service Identity and Security.
Does it have the part where it reboots/fixes failed services for you?
So: 
you monkey-patch all this shit in (er, sorry, “sidecar”), 
which controls the network with SDN shit, 
Istio-Manager + Envoy (https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/overview.html) does all your load-balancing/circuit breaker (https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/handling-failures.html)/canary/AB shit, service discovery/registry, service versioning (https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/request-routing.html#service-model-and-service-versions) (i.e., running n+1 different versions of code - always a pretty cool feature), configuring “routes,” what connects to what (https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/rules-configuration.html), 
I don’t think it provides a service registry/discover service (https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/load-balancing.html)? Maybe just a waffer thin API (“a platform-agnostic service discovery interface”)?
Question: what does this look like in your code? 
The  (https://istio.io/docs/concepts/policy-and-control/mixer.html) thing 12 factor-style passes a configuration into your actual code. Here, you’re adding a bunch of name/value pairs (which can be nested) and also translating them to the name/value pairs that your code is expecting...on an HTTP call? Executing a command in your container? As ENV vars?
And then, I think you finally get ahold of the network to reply back with some HTML, JSON, or some sort of HTTP request by  (https://istio.io/docs/tasks/ingress.html)., 
So, big questions, aka, Coté mental breakdown that only Matt Ray can cure:
Er...so this all really is a replacement for the VMware stack, right? And OpenStack? Or do you still need those. What the fuck is all this stuff? It just installs the Docker image on a server? And then handles multi-zone replication, and making sure config drift is handles (bringing up failed nodes, too)?
So, it’s just cheaper and more transparent than VMware?
What’s the set of shit one needs? Ubuntu, Moby Engine (?), Moby command line tools, etcd? Actuality kubernetes code? What’s Swarm do? And then there’s monitoring, which according to Whiskey Charity, is all shit, right?
Where’ my fucking chart on this shit?
Please write two page memo for the BoD by 2pm today.
Meanwhile: Oracle’s cool with it (https://thenewstack.io/oracle-joins-kubernetes-fray/), “WTF is a microservice” (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14414031), compared to SOA/ESB and RESTful (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1441150), and James Governor tries to explain it all (http://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2017/05/31/so-what-even-is-a-service-mesh-hot-take-on-istio-and-linkerd/).
BONUS LINKS! Not covered in episode.
Rackspace Buys Enterprise Apps Management TriCore
Link (http://www.enterprisecloudnews.com/author.asp?doc_id=733171§ion_id=571)
New CEO and biggest acquisition, I thought they were quieting down with the PE
Red Hat buys Codenvy
Codenvy sets up your developer environments (https://codenvy.com/developers/), and has team stuff.
Red Hat is really after the developer market.
TaskTop has a good chance of being acquired in this climate.
Pour one out from BMC/StreamStep.
Notes from Carl Lehmann report at 451 (https://451research.com/report-short?entityId=92575):
In-browser IDE and devtool chain(?) for OpenShift.io, based on Eclipse Che
“Founded in 2013, San Francisco-based Codenvy raised $10m in January of that year, and used a portion of its funds to buy its initial codebase from eXo Platform, which had developed the eXo Cloud IDE in-browser coding suite to support its social and collaboration applications.”
“The company's suite works with developer tools like subversion and git, CloudBees, Jenkins, Docker, MongoDB, Cloud Foundry, Maven and ant, as well as PaaS and IaaS offerings such as Heroku, Google AppEngine, Red Hat OpenShift and AWS.”
Check out the Dell Sputnik call-out: “Rivals to Codenvy include cloud-based development suites Eclipse Orion (open source), Cloud9 IDE and Nitrous.IO. There are other 'cloud IDEs,' including Codeanywhere, CodeRun Studio, Neutron Drive and ShiftEdit. On the developer environment configuration front, Pivotal created and open-sourced a developer and OS X laptop configuration tool called Workstation, and now Sprout. Dell's Project Sputnik is seeking to address similar build environment standup productivity challenges.”
Uber back in Austin
Is that a thing? (https://twitter.com/Uber_ATX/status/867781159178051584)
Amazon Hiring Old Folks (Like Me)
Anecdotes are the singular of data (https://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2017/05/23/how-aws-cloud-is-demolishing-the-cult-of-youth/)?
More Tech Against Texas’ Discriminatory Laws
Lords of Tech sign a thing (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas-legislature/2017/05/28/mark-zuckerberg-tim-cook-texas-gov-abbott-pass-discriminatory-laws)
“In addition to Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and Apple CEO Tim Cook, the letter was signed by Amazon CEO Jeff Wilke, IBM Chairman Ginni Rometty, Microsoft Corp. President Brad Smith and Google CEO Sundar Pichai. The leaders of Dell Technologies, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, Cisco, Silicon Labs, Celanese Corp., GSD&amp;amp;M, Salesforce and Gearbox Software also signed the letter.”
“Peeing is not political” (https://www.texastribune.org/2017/05/28/bathroom-bill-showdown-has-been-building-years/) - recap of the history of the bathroom bill. Still doesn’t really address “is there actually a problem here, backed up with citations.” Without such coverage, it’s hard to understand (and therefore figure out and react to) the hillbilly’s side on this beyond: "It's just common sense and common decency — we don't want men in women's, ladies' rooms." It also highlights the huge, social divide between “city folk” and the hillbillies.
A lot more from TheNewStack (https://thenewstack.io/tech-leaders-ask-texas-governor-halt-discriminatory-legislation/).
ChefConf Retrospective
ICYMI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtF3oScoYqk)
Competing in Public Cloud is Crazy Expensive
Link (http://www.platformonomics.com/2017/04/follow-the-capex-cloud-table-stakes/)
Tracks the CAPEX spend over the years for MS, Google and Amazon
A Year of Google &amp;amp; Apple Maps
Link (https://www.justinobeirne.com/a-year-of-google-maps-and-apple-maps)
Comprehensive drill-down into the mapping changes made by Google and the smaller moves by Apple. 
Probably not content for conversation, but whoa.
FAA Flight Delay Tracking
Check the map, fool (http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp)
Recommendations
Brandon: Beauty of A Bad Idea — with Walker &amp;amp; Company's Tristan (http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stitcher/masters-of-scale/e/beauty-of-a-bad-idea-with-walker-companys-tristan-walker-50186227)
Matt: 
Arrested DevOps #84 (https://www.arresteddevops.com/yelling-at-cloud/) Old Geeks Yell At Cloud With Andrew Clay Shafer &amp;amp; Bryan Cantrill Epic rants. Also, Bryan Cantrill sounds like Bob Odenkirk
Enjoying Westworld and everything Brandon recommended months ago
Coté: Butternut-squash hash (http://www.paleorunningmomma.com/butternut-squash-hash-paleo-whole30/). 
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    <![CDATA[<p>The cat-nip of Mary Meeker&#39;s Internet Trends report is out this week so we discuss the highlights which leads to a sudden discussion of what an Amazon private cloud product would look like. Then, with a raft of new container related news we sort out what CoreOS is doing with their Tectonic managed service, what Heptio is (the Mirantis of  Kubernetes?), and then a deep dive into the newly announced Istio which seems to be looking to create a yaml-based(!) standard for microservices configuration and policy and, then, the actual code for managing it all. Also, an extensive analysis of a hot-dog display, which is either basting itself or putting on some condiment-hair.</p>

<h1>Alternate Titles</h1>

<ul>
<li>I&#39;ve seen this hot-dog before.</li>
<li>I’ve been doing this since dickity-4</li>
<li>I’m sticking with the Mary Meeker slides, you nerds go figure it out</li>
</ul>

<h1>Mid-roll</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://connect.pivotal.io/Cloud-Native-Strategy-Workshop-DC.html" rel="nofollow">Pivotal Cloud-native workshop in DC, June 7th</a>.</li>
<li>LOOK, MA! I PUT IN DATES! DevOpsDays Minneapolis, July 25 to 26th: <a href="https://devopsdays-minneapolis-2017.eventbrite.com?discount=SDT" rel="nofollow">get 20% off registration with the code SDT</a> (Thanks, Bridget!).</li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/" rel="nofollow">CF Summit June 13 to 15, 2017</a>.

<ul>
<li>20% off registration code: cfsv17cote</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&" rel="nofollow">Want 2 days of Spring knowledge? Check out SpringDays</a>

<ul>
<li>SpringDays.io</li>
<li>Get half-off with the code SpringDays_HalfOff</li>
<li><a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/chicago" rel="nofollow">Chicago (May 30th to 31st)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/new-york" rel="nofollow">New York (June 20th to 21st)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/atlanta" rel="nofollow">Atlanta (July 18th to 19th)</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h1>Hot-dog guy in Japan</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/cote/35012640896/" rel="nofollow">Zoom in on that little fellow</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Internet Trends 2017</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.kpcb.com/internet-trends" rel="nofollow">300 plus slides of charts</a></li>
<li>Computes!</li>
<li><a href="https://content.pivotal.io/blog/analysis-of-mary-meeker-s-internet-trends" rel="nofollow">Coté’s notebook</a>, summary of summary:

<ul>
<li>Google and Facebook make a lot of ad money.</li>
<li>The Kids like using smart phones, the olds like using traditional telephones. One of them will die sooner.</li>
<li>Voice, image recognition, etc.</li>
<li>China is pretty much a mature market, and it’s huge.</li>
<li>India has potential, but doing business there is hard and you need more Internet in a pocket rollout.</li>
<li>The public/private cloud debate is still far from over.</li>
<li>But, AWS, Microsoft, and Google have pretty much won.</li>
<li>Bonus: there’s surprisingly little funding and exits this year.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Would Amazon sell some private clouds?</li>
</ul>

<h1>Isotoner and Hephaestus - All the new container orchestration poop</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté: Catching up on all this week&#39;s container poop &amp; as always, my first reaction is “oh, I thought the existing stuff did all that already..so.&quot;</li>
<li><a href="https://thenewstack.io/coreos-takes-cloud-portability-tectonic-release/" rel="nofollow">Managed service for Tectonic as a Service</a> - so, keeping your Kubernates cluster software updated? Presumably enforcing config, etc?

<ul>
<li>However, not all done, still working on the complete solution.</li>
<li>But, there’s an etcd thing ‘As a first step, Tectonic 1.6.4 will offer the distributed etcd key-value data store as a fully managed cloud service. “It’s the logical one to offer first because it is everything else gets built on it,”  Polvi explained. The data store “guarantees that data is in a consistent state for very specific operations,” he said, referring to how etcd can be essential for operations such as database migrations.’</li>
<li><a href="https://blog.heptio.com/core-kubernetes-jazz-improv-over-orchestration-a7903ea92ca" rel="nofollow">Another etcd description</a>: “etcd is a clustered database that prizes consistency above partition tolerance… Interestingly, at Google, chubby is most frequently accessed using an abstracted File interface that works across local files, object stores, etc. The highly consistent nature, however, provides for strict ordering of writes and allows clients to do atomic updates of a set of values.</li>
<li>So, you need locks for - dun-dun-dun! - transactions! Queue JP lecturing me in 2002.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Then <a href="http://blog.kubernetes.io/2017/05/managing-microservices-with-istio-service-mesh.html" rel="nofollow">there’s Istio</a>: 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://istio.io/" rel="nofollow">Istio</a>?!</li>
<li>Whao! Check out <a href="https://istio.io/blog/istio-service-mesh-for-microservices.html" rel="nofollow">the exec-pitch</a>: “ Istio gives CIOs a powerful tool to enforce security, policy and compliance requirements across the enterprise.” <a href="https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/05/istio-modern-approach-to-developing-and.html" rel="nofollow">And Google</a>: “Through the Open Service Broker model CIOs can define a catalog of services which may be used within their enterprise and auditing tools to enforce compliance.”

<ul>
<li>I love their idea of what a CIO does.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>“An open platform to connect, manage, and secure microservices“</li>
<li>SDN++ overlay for container orchestrators from Google, IBM &amp; Lyft - once you control the network with the <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/what-is-istio/overview.html#architecture" rel="nofollow">“data plane,” you add in the “control plane”</a> which allows you to control the flow and shit of the actual microservices.</li>
<li>Tackling the “new problems emerge due to the sheer number of services that exist in a larger system. Problems that had to be solved once for a monolith, like security, load balancing, monitoring, and rate limiting need to be handled for each service.”</li>
<li>And, you know, all the agnostic, multi-cloud, open stuff.</li>
<li>Thankfully, they didn’t use a bunch of garbage, nonsense names for things.</li>
<li>Let’s look at <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/what-is-istio/overview.html" rel="nofollow">the docs</a> (BTW, can you kids start just putting out PDFs instead of only these auto-generated from markdown web pages?):

<ul>
<li>First of all, these are good docs.</li>
<li>Monkey-patching for the container era: “You add Istio support to services by deploying a special sidecar proxy throughout your environment that intercepts all network communication between microservices, configured and managed using Istio’s control plane functionality.”</li>
<li>The future! Where we all shall live! “Istio currently only supports service deployment on Kubernetes, though other environments will be supported in future versions.”</li>
<li>Problems being solved, aka, “ways you must be this tall to ride the microservices ride”: “Its requirements can include discovery, load balancing, failure recovery, metrics, and monitoring, and often more complex operational requirements such as A/B testing, canary releases, rate limiting, access control, and end-to-end authentication.”</li>
<li>Also: <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/overview.html" rel="nofollow">Traffic Management</a>, Observability, Policy Enforcement, Service Identity and Security.</li>
<li>Does it have the part where it reboots/fixes failed services for you?</li>
<li>So: 

<ul>
<li>you monkey-patch all this shit in (er, sorry, “sidecar”), </li>
<li>which controls the network with SDN shit, </li>
<li><a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/overview.html" rel="nofollow">Istio-Manager + Envoy</a> does all your load-balancing/<a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/handling-failures.html" rel="nofollow">circuit breaker</a>/canary/AB shit, service discovery/registry, <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/request-routing.html#service-model-and-service-versions" rel="nofollow">service versioning</a> (i.e., running n+1 different versions of code - always a pretty cool feature), <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/rules-configuration.html" rel="nofollow">configuring “routes,” what connects to what</a>, </li>
<li><a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/load-balancing.html" rel="nofollow">I don’t think it provides a service registry/discover service</a>? Maybe just a waffer thin API (“a platform-agnostic service discovery interface”)?</li>
<li>Question: what does this look like in your code? 

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/policy-and-control/mixer.html" rel="nofollow"></a> thing 12 factor-style passes a configuration into your actual code. Here, you’re adding a bunch of name/value pairs (which can be nested) and also translating them to the name/value pairs that your code is expecting...on an HTTP call? Executing a command in your container? As ENV vars?</li>
<li>And then, I think you finally get ahold of the network to reply back with some HTML, JSON, or some sort of HTTP request by <a href="https://istio.io/docs/tasks/ingress.html" rel="nofollow"></a>., </li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>So, big questions, aka, Coté mental breakdown that only Matt Ray can cure:

<ul>
<li>Er...so this all really is a replacement for the VMware stack, right? And OpenStack? Or do you still need those. What the fuck is all this stuff? It just installs the Docker image on a server? And then handles multi-zone replication, and making sure config drift is handles (bringing up failed nodes, too)?</li>
<li>So, it’s just cheaper and more transparent than VMware?</li>
<li>What’s the set of shit one needs? Ubuntu, Moby Engine (?), Moby command line tools, etcd? Actuality kubernetes code? What’s Swarm do? And then there’s monitoring, which according to Whiskey Charity, is all shit, right?</li>
<li>Where’ my fucking chart on this shit?</li>
<li>Please write two page memo for the BoD by 2pm today.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Meanwhile: <a href="https://thenewstack.io/oracle-joins-kubernetes-fray/" rel="nofollow">Oracle’s cool with it</a>, <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14414031" rel="nofollow">“WTF is a microservice”</a>, <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1441150" rel="nofollow">compared to SOA/ESB and RESTful</a>, and <a href="http://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2017/05/31/so-what-even-is-a-service-mesh-hot-take-on-istio-and-linkerd/" rel="nofollow">James Governor tries to explain it all</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>BONUS LINKS! Not covered in episode.</h1>

<h2>Rackspace Buys Enterprise Apps Management TriCore</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.enterprisecloudnews.com/author.asp?doc_id=733171&section_id=571" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>New CEO and biggest acquisition, I thought they were quieting down with the PE</li>
</ul>

<h2>Red Hat buys Codenvy</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://codenvy.com/developers/" rel="nofollow">Codenvy sets up your developer environments</a>, and has team stuff.</li>
<li>Red Hat is really after the developer market.</li>
<li>TaskTop has a good chance of being acquired in this climate.</li>
<li>Pour one out from BMC/StreamStep.</li>
<li>Notes <a href="https://451research.com/report-short?entityId=92575" rel="nofollow">from Carl Lehmann report at 451</a>:

<ul>
<li>In-browser IDE and devtool chain(?) for OpenShift.io, based on Eclipse Che</li>
<li>“Founded in 2013, San Francisco-based Codenvy raised $10m in January of that year, and used a portion of its funds to buy its initial codebase from eXo Platform, which had developed the eXo Cloud IDE in-browser coding suite to support its social and collaboration applications.”</li>
<li>“The company&#39;s suite works with developer tools like subversion and git, CloudBees, Jenkins, Docker, MongoDB, Cloud Foundry, Maven and ant, as well as PaaS and IaaS offerings such as Heroku, Google AppEngine, Red Hat OpenShift and AWS.”</li>
<li>Check out the Dell Sputnik call-out: “Rivals to Codenvy include cloud-based development suites Eclipse Orion (open source), Cloud9 IDE and Nitrous.IO. There are other &#39;cloud IDEs,&#39; including Codeanywhere, CodeRun Studio, Neutron Drive and ShiftEdit. On the developer environment configuration front, Pivotal created and open-sourced a developer and OS X laptop configuration tool called Workstation, and now Sprout. Dell&#39;s Project Sputnik is seeking to address similar build environment standup productivity challenges.”</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h2>Uber back in Austin</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/Uber_ATX/status/867781159178051584" rel="nofollow">Is that a thing?</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Amazon Hiring Old Folks (Like Me)</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2017/05/23/how-aws-cloud-is-demolishing-the-cult-of-youth/" rel="nofollow">Anecdotes are the singular of data</a>?</li>
</ul>

<h2>More Tech Against Texas’ Discriminatory Laws</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas-legislature/2017/05/28/mark-zuckerberg-tim-cook-texas-gov-abbott-pass-discriminatory-laws" rel="nofollow">Lords of Tech sign a thing</a></li>
<li>“In addition to Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and Apple CEO Tim Cook, the letter was signed by Amazon CEO Jeff Wilke, IBM Chairman Ginni Rometty, Microsoft Corp. President Brad Smith and Google CEO Sundar Pichai. The leaders of Dell Technologies, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, Cisco, Silicon Labs, Celanese Corp., GSD&amp;M, Salesforce and Gearbox Software also signed the letter.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2017/05/28/bathroom-bill-showdown-has-been-building-years/" rel="nofollow">“Peeing is not political”</a> - recap of the history of the bathroom bill. Still doesn’t really address “is there actually a problem here, backed up with citations.” Without such coverage, it’s hard to understand (and therefore figure out and react to) the hillbilly’s side on this beyond: &quot;It&#39;s just common sense and common decency — we don&#39;t want men in women&#39;s, ladies&#39; rooms.&quot; It also highlights the huge, social divide between “city folk” and the hillbillies.</li>
<li><a href="https://thenewstack.io/tech-leaders-ask-texas-governor-halt-discriminatory-legislation/" rel="nofollow">A lot more from TheNewStack</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>ChefConf Retrospective</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtF3oScoYqk" rel="nofollow">ICYMI</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Competing in Public Cloud is Crazy Expensive</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.platformonomics.com/2017/04/follow-the-capex-cloud-table-stakes/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Tracks the CAPEX spend over the years for MS, Google and Amazon</li>
</ul>

<h2>A Year of Google &amp; Apple Maps</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.justinobeirne.com/a-year-of-google-maps-and-apple-maps" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Comprehensive drill-down into the mapping changes made by Google and the smaller moves by Apple. </li>
<li>Probably not content for conversation, but whoa.</li>
</ul>

<h2>FAA Flight Delay Tracking</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp" rel="nofollow">Check the map, fool</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<ul>
<li>Brandon: <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stitcher/masters-of-scale/e/beauty-of-a-bad-idea-with-walker-companys-tristan-walker-50186227" rel="nofollow">Beauty of A Bad Idea — with Walker &amp; Company&#39;s Tristan</a></li>
<li>Matt: 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.arresteddevops.com/yelling-at-cloud/" rel="nofollow">Arrested DevOps #84</a> Old Geeks Yell At Cloud With Andrew Clay Shafer &amp; Bryan Cantrill Epic rants. Also, Bryan Cantrill sounds like Bob Odenkirk</li>
<li>Enjoying <em>Westworld</em> and everything Brandon recommended months ago</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="http://www.paleorunningmomma.com/butternut-squash-hash-paleo-whole30/" rel="nofollow">Butternut-squash hash</a>.</li>
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    <![CDATA[<p>The cat-nip of Mary Meeker&#39;s Internet Trends report is out this week so we discuss the highlights which leads to a sudden discussion of what an Amazon private cloud product would look like. Then, with a raft of new container related news we sort out what CoreOS is doing with their Tectonic managed service, what Heptio is (the Mirantis of  Kubernetes?), and then a deep dive into the newly announced Istio which seems to be looking to create a yaml-based(!) standard for microservices configuration and policy and, then, the actual code for managing it all. Also, an extensive analysis of a hot-dog display, which is either basting itself or putting on some condiment-hair.</p>

<h1>Alternate Titles</h1>

<ul>
<li>I&#39;ve seen this hot-dog before.</li>
<li>I’ve been doing this since dickity-4</li>
<li>I’m sticking with the Mary Meeker slides, you nerds go figure it out</li>
</ul>

<h1>Mid-roll</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://connect.pivotal.io/Cloud-Native-Strategy-Workshop-DC.html" rel="nofollow">Pivotal Cloud-native workshop in DC, June 7th</a>.</li>
<li>LOOK, MA! I PUT IN DATES! DevOpsDays Minneapolis, July 25 to 26th: <a href="https://devopsdays-minneapolis-2017.eventbrite.com?discount=SDT" rel="nofollow">get 20% off registration with the code SDT</a> (Thanks, Bridget!).</li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/" rel="nofollow">CF Summit June 13 to 15, 2017</a>.

<ul>
<li>20% off registration code: cfsv17cote</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&" rel="nofollow">Want 2 days of Spring knowledge? Check out SpringDays</a>

<ul>
<li>SpringDays.io</li>
<li>Get half-off with the code SpringDays_HalfOff</li>
<li><a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/chicago" rel="nofollow">Chicago (May 30th to 31st)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/new-york" rel="nofollow">New York (June 20th to 21st)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/atlanta" rel="nofollow">Atlanta (July 18th to 19th)</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h1>Hot-dog guy in Japan</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/cote/35012640896/" rel="nofollow">Zoom in on that little fellow</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Internet Trends 2017</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.kpcb.com/internet-trends" rel="nofollow">300 plus slides of charts</a></li>
<li>Computes!</li>
<li><a href="https://content.pivotal.io/blog/analysis-of-mary-meeker-s-internet-trends" rel="nofollow">Coté’s notebook</a>, summary of summary:

<ul>
<li>Google and Facebook make a lot of ad money.</li>
<li>The Kids like using smart phones, the olds like using traditional telephones. One of them will die sooner.</li>
<li>Voice, image recognition, etc.</li>
<li>China is pretty much a mature market, and it’s huge.</li>
<li>India has potential, but doing business there is hard and you need more Internet in a pocket rollout.</li>
<li>The public/private cloud debate is still far from over.</li>
<li>But, AWS, Microsoft, and Google have pretty much won.</li>
<li>Bonus: there’s surprisingly little funding and exits this year.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Would Amazon sell some private clouds?</li>
</ul>

<h1>Isotoner and Hephaestus - All the new container orchestration poop</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté: Catching up on all this week&#39;s container poop &amp; as always, my first reaction is “oh, I thought the existing stuff did all that already..so.&quot;</li>
<li><a href="https://thenewstack.io/coreos-takes-cloud-portability-tectonic-release/" rel="nofollow">Managed service for Tectonic as a Service</a> - so, keeping your Kubernates cluster software updated? Presumably enforcing config, etc?

<ul>
<li>However, not all done, still working on the complete solution.</li>
<li>But, there’s an etcd thing ‘As a first step, Tectonic 1.6.4 will offer the distributed etcd key-value data store as a fully managed cloud service. “It’s the logical one to offer first because it is everything else gets built on it,”  Polvi explained. The data store “guarantees that data is in a consistent state for very specific operations,” he said, referring to how etcd can be essential for operations such as database migrations.’</li>
<li><a href="https://blog.heptio.com/core-kubernetes-jazz-improv-over-orchestration-a7903ea92ca" rel="nofollow">Another etcd description</a>: “etcd is a clustered database that prizes consistency above partition tolerance… Interestingly, at Google, chubby is most frequently accessed using an abstracted File interface that works across local files, object stores, etc. The highly consistent nature, however, provides for strict ordering of writes and allows clients to do atomic updates of a set of values.</li>
<li>So, you need locks for - dun-dun-dun! - transactions! Queue JP lecturing me in 2002.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Then <a href="http://blog.kubernetes.io/2017/05/managing-microservices-with-istio-service-mesh.html" rel="nofollow">there’s Istio</a>: 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://istio.io/" rel="nofollow">Istio</a>?!</li>
<li>Whao! Check out <a href="https://istio.io/blog/istio-service-mesh-for-microservices.html" rel="nofollow">the exec-pitch</a>: “ Istio gives CIOs a powerful tool to enforce security, policy and compliance requirements across the enterprise.” <a href="https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/05/istio-modern-approach-to-developing-and.html" rel="nofollow">And Google</a>: “Through the Open Service Broker model CIOs can define a catalog of services which may be used within their enterprise and auditing tools to enforce compliance.”

<ul>
<li>I love their idea of what a CIO does.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>“An open platform to connect, manage, and secure microservices“</li>
<li>SDN++ overlay for container orchestrators from Google, IBM &amp; Lyft - once you control the network with the <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/what-is-istio/overview.html#architecture" rel="nofollow">“data plane,” you add in the “control plane”</a> which allows you to control the flow and shit of the actual microservices.</li>
<li>Tackling the “new problems emerge due to the sheer number of services that exist in a larger system. Problems that had to be solved once for a monolith, like security, load balancing, monitoring, and rate limiting need to be handled for each service.”</li>
<li>And, you know, all the agnostic, multi-cloud, open stuff.</li>
<li>Thankfully, they didn’t use a bunch of garbage, nonsense names for things.</li>
<li>Let’s look at <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/what-is-istio/overview.html" rel="nofollow">the docs</a> (BTW, can you kids start just putting out PDFs instead of only these auto-generated from markdown web pages?):

<ul>
<li>First of all, these are good docs.</li>
<li>Monkey-patching for the container era: “You add Istio support to services by deploying a special sidecar proxy throughout your environment that intercepts all network communication between microservices, configured and managed using Istio’s control plane functionality.”</li>
<li>The future! Where we all shall live! “Istio currently only supports service deployment on Kubernetes, though other environments will be supported in future versions.”</li>
<li>Problems being solved, aka, “ways you must be this tall to ride the microservices ride”: “Its requirements can include discovery, load balancing, failure recovery, metrics, and monitoring, and often more complex operational requirements such as A/B testing, canary releases, rate limiting, access control, and end-to-end authentication.”</li>
<li>Also: <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/overview.html" rel="nofollow">Traffic Management</a>, Observability, Policy Enforcement, Service Identity and Security.</li>
<li>Does it have the part where it reboots/fixes failed services for you?</li>
<li>So: 

<ul>
<li>you monkey-patch all this shit in (er, sorry, “sidecar”), </li>
<li>which controls the network with SDN shit, </li>
<li><a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/overview.html" rel="nofollow">Istio-Manager + Envoy</a> does all your load-balancing/<a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/handling-failures.html" rel="nofollow">circuit breaker</a>/canary/AB shit, service discovery/registry, <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/request-routing.html#service-model-and-service-versions" rel="nofollow">service versioning</a> (i.e., running n+1 different versions of code - always a pretty cool feature), <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/rules-configuration.html" rel="nofollow">configuring “routes,” what connects to what</a>, </li>
<li><a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/traffic-management/load-balancing.html" rel="nofollow">I don’t think it provides a service registry/discover service</a>? Maybe just a waffer thin API (“a platform-agnostic service discovery interface”)?</li>
<li>Question: what does this look like in your code? 

<ul>
<li>The <a href="https://istio.io/docs/concepts/policy-and-control/mixer.html" rel="nofollow"></a> thing 12 factor-style passes a configuration into your actual code. Here, you’re adding a bunch of name/value pairs (which can be nested) and also translating them to the name/value pairs that your code is expecting...on an HTTP call? Executing a command in your container? As ENV vars?</li>
<li>And then, I think you finally get ahold of the network to reply back with some HTML, JSON, or some sort of HTTP request by <a href="https://istio.io/docs/tasks/ingress.html" rel="nofollow"></a>., </li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
</ul></li>
<li>So, big questions, aka, Coté mental breakdown that only Matt Ray can cure:

<ul>
<li>Er...so this all really is a replacement for the VMware stack, right? And OpenStack? Or do you still need those. What the fuck is all this stuff? It just installs the Docker image on a server? And then handles multi-zone replication, and making sure config drift is handles (bringing up failed nodes, too)?</li>
<li>So, it’s just cheaper and more transparent than VMware?</li>
<li>What’s the set of shit one needs? Ubuntu, Moby Engine (?), Moby command line tools, etcd? Actuality kubernetes code? What’s Swarm do? And then there’s monitoring, which according to Whiskey Charity, is all shit, right?</li>
<li>Where’ my fucking chart on this shit?</li>
<li>Please write two page memo for the BoD by 2pm today.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Meanwhile: <a href="https://thenewstack.io/oracle-joins-kubernetes-fray/" rel="nofollow">Oracle’s cool with it</a>, <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14414031" rel="nofollow">“WTF is a microservice”</a>, <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1441150" rel="nofollow">compared to SOA/ESB and RESTful</a>, and <a href="http://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2017/05/31/so-what-even-is-a-service-mesh-hot-take-on-istio-and-linkerd/" rel="nofollow">James Governor tries to explain it all</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>BONUS LINKS! Not covered in episode.</h1>

<h2>Rackspace Buys Enterprise Apps Management TriCore</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.enterprisecloudnews.com/author.asp?doc_id=733171&section_id=571" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>New CEO and biggest acquisition, I thought they were quieting down with the PE</li>
</ul>

<h2>Red Hat buys Codenvy</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://codenvy.com/developers/" rel="nofollow">Codenvy sets up your developer environments</a>, and has team stuff.</li>
<li>Red Hat is really after the developer market.</li>
<li>TaskTop has a good chance of being acquired in this climate.</li>
<li>Pour one out from BMC/StreamStep.</li>
<li>Notes <a href="https://451research.com/report-short?entityId=92575" rel="nofollow">from Carl Lehmann report at 451</a>:

<ul>
<li>In-browser IDE and devtool chain(?) for OpenShift.io, based on Eclipse Che</li>
<li>“Founded in 2013, San Francisco-based Codenvy raised $10m in January of that year, and used a portion of its funds to buy its initial codebase from eXo Platform, which had developed the eXo Cloud IDE in-browser coding suite to support its social and collaboration applications.”</li>
<li>“The company&#39;s suite works with developer tools like subversion and git, CloudBees, Jenkins, Docker, MongoDB, Cloud Foundry, Maven and ant, as well as PaaS and IaaS offerings such as Heroku, Google AppEngine, Red Hat OpenShift and AWS.”</li>
<li>Check out the Dell Sputnik call-out: “Rivals to Codenvy include cloud-based development suites Eclipse Orion (open source), Cloud9 IDE and Nitrous.IO. There are other &#39;cloud IDEs,&#39; including Codeanywhere, CodeRun Studio, Neutron Drive and ShiftEdit. On the developer environment configuration front, Pivotal created and open-sourced a developer and OS X laptop configuration tool called Workstation, and now Sprout. Dell&#39;s Project Sputnik is seeking to address similar build environment standup productivity challenges.”</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h2>Uber back in Austin</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/Uber_ATX/status/867781159178051584" rel="nofollow">Is that a thing?</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Amazon Hiring Old Folks (Like Me)</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2017/05/23/how-aws-cloud-is-demolishing-the-cult-of-youth/" rel="nofollow">Anecdotes are the singular of data</a>?</li>
</ul>

<h2>More Tech Against Texas’ Discriminatory Laws</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas-legislature/2017/05/28/mark-zuckerberg-tim-cook-texas-gov-abbott-pass-discriminatory-laws" rel="nofollow">Lords of Tech sign a thing</a></li>
<li>“In addition to Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and Apple CEO Tim Cook, the letter was signed by Amazon CEO Jeff Wilke, IBM Chairman Ginni Rometty, Microsoft Corp. President Brad Smith and Google CEO Sundar Pichai. The leaders of Dell Technologies, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, Cisco, Silicon Labs, Celanese Corp., GSD&amp;M, Salesforce and Gearbox Software also signed the letter.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2017/05/28/bathroom-bill-showdown-has-been-building-years/" rel="nofollow">“Peeing is not political”</a> - recap of the history of the bathroom bill. Still doesn’t really address “is there actually a problem here, backed up with citations.” Without such coverage, it’s hard to understand (and therefore figure out and react to) the hillbilly’s side on this beyond: &quot;It&#39;s just common sense and common decency — we don&#39;t want men in women&#39;s, ladies&#39; rooms.&quot; It also highlights the huge, social divide between “city folk” and the hillbillies.</li>
<li><a href="https://thenewstack.io/tech-leaders-ask-texas-governor-halt-discriminatory-legislation/" rel="nofollow">A lot more from TheNewStack</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>ChefConf Retrospective</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtF3oScoYqk" rel="nofollow">ICYMI</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Competing in Public Cloud is Crazy Expensive</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.platformonomics.com/2017/04/follow-the-capex-cloud-table-stakes/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Tracks the CAPEX spend over the years for MS, Google and Amazon</li>
</ul>

<h2>A Year of Google &amp; Apple Maps</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.justinobeirne.com/a-year-of-google-maps-and-apple-maps" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Comprehensive drill-down into the mapping changes made by Google and the smaller moves by Apple. </li>
<li>Probably not content for conversation, but whoa.</li>
</ul>

<h2>FAA Flight Delay Tracking</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp" rel="nofollow">Check the map, fool</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<ul>
<li>Brandon: <a href="http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/stitcher/masters-of-scale/e/beauty-of-a-bad-idea-with-walker-companys-tristan-walker-50186227" rel="nofollow">Beauty of A Bad Idea — with Walker &amp; Company&#39;s Tristan</a></li>
<li>Matt: 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.arresteddevops.com/yelling-at-cloud/" rel="nofollow">Arrested DevOps #84</a> Old Geeks Yell At Cloud With Andrew Clay Shafer &amp; Bryan Cantrill Epic rants. Also, Bryan Cantrill sounds like Bob Odenkirk</li>
<li>Enjoying <em>Westworld</em> and everything Brandon recommended months ago</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="http://www.paleorunningmomma.com/butternut-squash-hash-paleo-whole30/" rel="nofollow">Butternut-squash hash</a>.</li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://connect.pivotal.io/Cloud-Native-Strategy-Workshop-DC.html">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://connect.pivotal.io/Cloud-Native-Strategy-Workshop-DC.html">Pivotal Cloud-Native Strategy Workshop, in DC, June 7th.</a> Promo Code: FREE</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2017-minneapolis/welcome/">DevOpsDays</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2017-minneapolis/welcome/">DevOpsDays MSP: get 20% off registration with the code SDT.</a> Promo Code: SDT</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 93: Cloud Rules Everything Around Me - Red Hat, Moby, Docker CEO, and Halo Effect’ing The First Cloud Wars</title>
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  <description>There's much news in the container world with DockerCon and Red Hat having had conferences, plus Docker gets a new CEO. We also do a hindsight analysis of what wrong with the losers of the Cloud Wars. And, as always, recommendations from the three of us.
Mid-roll
Coté: CF Summit 2017 (https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/) - 20% off registration code: cfsv17cote
Coté: Want 2 days of Spring knowledge? Check out SpringDays in ATL, NYC, and Chicago (https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&amp;amp;). Get 50% w/code SpringDays_HalfOff: SpringDays.io in Chicago (May 30th to 31st) (https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/chicago), New York (June 20th to 21st) (https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/new-york), and Atlanta (July 18th to 19th) (https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/atlanta)
Coté: OSCON Expo Plus (https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus) discount: I wanted to present to you a Free Expo hall Plus Pass for OSCON coming to Austin May 10/11. You get way more than just a pass to the expo, it also covers three full-day events: TensorFlow Day, InnerSource Day, and our Open Container Summit. If you are interested, you can use the code AUSTIN at checkout. You can see the entirety of what is offered here (https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus).
Matt: ChefConf May 22-24 (https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/)
Matt Ray’s APAC Biz Travel Fun
5 different airlines in a month.
Emirates is the best.
This is why we can’t have nice things - American Airlines raises pay.
Red Hat.
Some cloud stuff we need to read-on more.
Check out Coté's summary of a recent Brian Gracely post on the OpenShift momentum (https://cote.io/2017/05/01/red-hat-openshift-momentum-highlights/).
Cloud Rules Everything Around Me
As summarized by Derrick (http://news.architecht.io/issues/architecht-daily-it-s-earnings-and-ipo-season-for-cloud-and-cloudera-55782) (via CNBC (http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/27/microsoft-azure-growing-faster-than-aws-google-cloud-behind.html):
AWS brought in $3.66 billion in revenue, which was up 42 percent from last year. However, year-over-year growth dropped from last year’s first quarter.
Microsoft’s “Intelligent Cloud” unit, which includes Azure, grew 11 percent, to $6.8 billion. Microsoft doesn’t break out Azure revenue specifically, but said Azure saw a 93 percent increase in revenue over last year.
Google Cloud is buried somewhere in “Other Bets” on Alphabet earnings, a segment that grew 50 percent to $3.1 billion. 
What’s the Halo Effect on this? It’s easy to blame the big vendors for shying away from public cloud but it was some scary shit, business-case wise, back in 2008.
Verizon sells cloud stuff to IBM (http://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-to-snap-up-remnants-of-verizons-cloud-managed-hosting-business/).
Docker is now Moby, wait what?
LinuxKit - the host OS, where you run the containers.
“Moby (https://mobyproject.org/) is recommended for anyone who wants to assemble a container-based system”
Moby = open source development
Docker CE = free product release based on Moby
Docker EE = commercial product release based on Docker EE
Moby is the name of the upstream umbrella project supervising the open source pieces that are used to build Docker, which is now the commercial-focused product Docker CE/EE
Letter about Moby (https://osenetwork.com/2017/04/21/)an-open-letter-to-docker-about-moby/
Moby is Fedora, Docker is like RHEL, Eclipse, Genuitec.
Coté’s Notebook on Moby and such (https://cote.io/2017/04/22/the-news-from-docker-land-plus-the-money-being-fought-over-notebook/)
Coté's Notebook on Docker's new CEO (https://cote.io/2017/05/03/dockers-new-ceo-steve-singh-highlights/).
BONUS LINKS! Not covered in show.
EngineYard done!
Press Release (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/engine-yard-leader-ruby-rails-131500016.html)
A snarky Tweet (https://twitter.com/craig_tracey/status/857004524447432704)
Another Press Release (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/engine-yard-a-leader-in-ruby-on-rails-acquired-by-crossover-to-become-a-full-stack-ruby-platform-300444820.html)
Jay Lyman at 451 (https://451research.com/report-short?entityId=92309&amp;amp;type=mis&amp;amp;alertid=445&amp;amp;contactid=0033200001wgKCKAA2&amp;amp;utm_source=sendgrid&amp;amp;utm_medium=email&amp;amp;utm_campaign=market-insight&amp;amp;utm_content=newsletter&amp;amp;utm_term=92309-Engine+Yard%27s+end+of+the+road+is+acquisition+by+Crossover): “It generated revenue of about $36m in 2016.” - I seem to recall that EngineYard would report on revenue.
“Native” Windows Server Support for Docker
Link (https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/hybridcloud/2017/04/18/dockercon-2017-powering-new-linux-innovations-with-hyper-v-isolation-and-windows-server/)
“Linux containers running natively on Windows Server through our Hyper-V isolation technology”
Sysdig Docker Usage Report 2017
Link 1 (https://sysdig.com/blog/sysdig-docker-usage-report-2017/)
Link 2 (http://www.infoworld.com/article/3189385/open-source-tools/kubernetes-is-king-in-container-survey.html)
Always fun to read “real” numbers
10 containers/host and Kubernetes out in front
Microsoft and the NSA Exploits Leak
Link (https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/msrc/2017/04/14/protecting-customers-and-evaluating-risk/)
Patch your servers and run modern versions people.
Amazon’s Coming to Australia
Link (http://mashable.com/2017/04/19/amazon-confirms-australia-expansion/)
“The moment Australian retailers have dreaded is here. “
Intel Drops out of OpenStack Innovation Center
Link (http://fortune.com/2017/04/14/intel-openstack-project-rackspace/)
30 Rackers moving internally, Intel is still participating within OpenStack
Huawei Want to Enter the Cloud Fray
Link (http://www.cbronline.com/news/cloud/public/cloud-wars-huawei-enters-fray-sets-sights-aws/)
Everybody wants a piece of AWS
Microsoft buys Deis
Coté’s notebook on the topic (https://cote.io/2017/04/10/microsoft-buys-deis-deeper-into-kubernetes-1-1bn-container-market-notebook/).
Oracle Buys Wercker
Link (http://blog.wercker.com/oracle)
“container lifecycle management” - foundation for a container PaaS if you tie it to the StackEngine acquisition?
How Many Data Centers Needed World-Wide
Link (http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2017/04/how-many-data-centers-needed-world-wide/)
Deep cut from James Hamilton, AWS Datacenter guru
Re: Oracle “if you assume the big three are spending roughly equally, how can $1.7B compete with more than $10B when it comes to serving customers?”
“2+1 redundancy is cheaper than 1+1 and, when there are 3 facilities, a single facility can experience a fault without eliminating all redundancy from the system. Consequently, whenever AWS goes into a new region, it’s usual that three new facilities be opened rather than just one with some racks on different power domains.”
“latency is not the prime driver of very large numbers of regions”
“being close to population centers and major communications hubs matters to most operators more than cooling costs”
Canonical/Ubuntu priorities
Link (https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/)
Dropping Unity desktop and phone stuff in favor of desktop, cloud &amp;amp; IOT
BrickerBot Bricks Unsecured IOT Devices
Link (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-malware-intentionally-bricks-iot-devices/)
“BrickerBot the work of a vigilante?”
OmniTI Shutting Down OmniOS Development
Link (https://lists.omniti.com/pipermail/omnios-discuss/2017-April/008699.html)
Open source Solaris-compatible clone
“OmniTI will be suspending active development of OmniOS”
Apple makes GarageBand, iMovie and iWork free
Link (http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/18/15344834/apple-free-apps-garageband-imovie-pages-keynote-numbers)
MacOS and IOS!
Keynote is the best, why not open source for an attempt at cross-platform?
Recommendations
Brandon: S-town podcast (https://stownpodcast.org/), some background from the creator (https://longform.org/posts/longform-podcast-239-brian-reed).
Matt Ray: Google Translate video realtime AR stuff.
Coté: The Big Sleep (http://amzn.to/2pyAeak). 
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    <![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s much news in the container world with DockerCon and Red Hat having had conferences, plus Docker gets a new CEO. We also do a hindsight analysis of what wrong with the losers of the Cloud Wars. And, as always, recommendations from the three of us.</p>

<h1>Mid-roll</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/" rel="nofollow">CF Summit 2017</a> - 20% off registration code: cfsv17cote</li>
<li>Coté: Want 2 days of Spring knowledge? Check out <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&" rel="nofollow">SpringDays in ATL, NYC, and Chicago</a>. Get 50% w/code SpringDays_HalfOff: SpringDays.io in <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/chicago" rel="nofollow">Chicago (May 30th to 31st)</a>, <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/new-york" rel="nofollow">New York (June 20th to 21st)</a>, and <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/atlanta" rel="nofollow">Atlanta (July 18th to 19th)</a></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus" rel="nofollow">OSCON Expo Plus</a> discount: I wanted to present to you a Free Expo hall Plus Pass for OSCON coming to Austin May 10/11. You get way more than just a pass to the expo, it also covers three full-day events: TensorFlow Day, InnerSource Day, and our Open Container Summit. If you are interested, you can use the code AUSTIN at checkout. You can see the entirety of what is offered <a href="https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Matt: <a href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/" rel="nofollow">ChefConf May 22-24</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Matt Ray’s APAC Biz Travel Fun</h1>

<ul>
<li>5 different airlines in a month.</li>
<li>Emirates is the best.</li>
<li>This is why we can’t have nice things - American Airlines raises pay.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Red Hat.</h1>

<ul>
<li>Some cloud stuff we need to read-on more.</li>
<li>Check out <a href="https://cote.io/2017/05/01/red-hat-openshift-momentum-highlights/" rel="nofollow">Coté&#39;s summary of a recent Brian Gracely post on the OpenShift momentum</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Cloud Rules Everything Around Me</h1>

<ul>
<li>As <a href="http://news.architecht.io/issues/architecht-daily-it-s-earnings-and-ipo-season-for-cloud-and-cloudera-55782" rel="nofollow">summarized by Derrick</a> (via <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/27/microsoft-azure-growing-faster-than-aws-google-cloud-behind.html" rel="nofollow">CNBC</a>:

<ul>
<li>AWS brought in $3.66 billion in revenue, which was up 42 percent from last year. However, year-over-year growth dropped from last year’s first quarter.</li>
<li>Microsoft’s “Intelligent Cloud” unit, which includes Azure, grew 11 percent, to $6.8 billion. Microsoft doesn’t break out Azure revenue specifically, but said Azure saw a 93 percent increase in revenue over last year.</li>
<li>Google Cloud is buried somewhere in “Other Bets” on Alphabet earnings, a segment that grew 50 percent to $3.1 billion. </li>
</ul></li>
<li>What’s the Halo Effect on this? It’s easy to blame the big vendors for shying away from public cloud but it was some scary shit, business-case wise, back in 2008.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-to-snap-up-remnants-of-verizons-cloud-managed-hosting-business/" rel="nofollow">Verizon sells cloud stuff to IBM</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Docker is now Moby, wait what?</h1>

<ul>
<li>LinuxKit - the host OS, where you run the containers.</li>
<li>“<a href="https://mobyproject.org/" rel="nofollow">Moby</a> is recommended for anyone who wants to assemble a container-based system”</li>
<li>Moby = open source development</li>
<li>Docker CE = free product release based on Moby</li>
<li>Docker EE = commercial product release based on Docker EE</li>
<li>Moby is the name of the upstream umbrella project supervising the open source pieces that are used to build Docker, which is now the commercial-focused product Docker CE/EE</li>
<li><a href="https://osenetwork.com/2017/04/21/" rel="nofollow">Letter about Moby</a>an-open-letter-to-docker-about-moby/</li>
<li>Moby is Fedora, Docker is like RHEL, Eclipse, Genuitec.</li>
<li><a href="https://cote.io/2017/04/22/the-news-from-docker-land-plus-the-money-being-fought-over-notebook/" rel="nofollow">Coté’s Notebook on Moby and such</a></li>
<li><a href="https://cote.io/2017/05/03/dockers-new-ceo-steve-singh-highlights/" rel="nofollow">Coté&#39;s Notebook on Docker&#39;s new CEO</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>BONUS LINKS! Not covered in show.</h1>

<h2>EngineYard done!</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/engine-yard-leader-ruby-rails-131500016.html" rel="nofollow">Press Release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/craig_tracey/status/857004524447432704" rel="nofollow">A snarky Tweet</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/engine-yard-a-leader-in-ruby-on-rails-acquired-by-crossover-to-become-a-full-stack-ruby-platform-300444820.html" rel="nofollow">Another Press Release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://451research.com/report-short?entityId=92309&type=mis&alertid=445&contactid=0033200001wgKCKAA2&utm_source=sendgrid&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=market-insight&utm_content=newsletter&utm_term=92309-Engine+Yard%27s+end+of+the+road+is+acquisition+by+Crossover" rel="nofollow">Jay Lyman at 451</a>: “It generated revenue of about $36m in 2016.” - I seem to recall that EngineYard would report on revenue.</li>
</ul>

<h2>“Native” Windows Server Support for Docker</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/hybridcloud/2017/04/18/dockercon-2017-powering-new-linux-innovations-with-hyper-v-isolation-and-windows-server/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>“Linux containers running natively on Windows Server through our Hyper-V isolation technology”</li>
</ul>

<h2>Sysdig Docker Usage Report 2017</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://sysdig.com/blog/sysdig-docker-usage-report-2017/" rel="nofollow">Link 1</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/3189385/open-source-tools/kubernetes-is-king-in-container-survey.html" rel="nofollow">Link 2</a></li>
<li>Always fun to read “real” numbers</li>
<li>10 containers/host and Kubernetes out in front</li>
</ul>

<h2>Microsoft and the NSA Exploits Leak</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/msrc/2017/04/14/protecting-customers-and-evaluating-risk/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Patch your servers and run modern versions people.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Amazon’s Coming to Australia</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://mashable.com/2017/04/19/amazon-confirms-australia-expansion/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>“The moment Australian retailers have dreaded is here. “</li>
</ul>

<h2>Intel Drops out of OpenStack Innovation Center</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://fortune.com/2017/04/14/intel-openstack-project-rackspace/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>30 Rackers moving internally, Intel is still participating within OpenStack</li>
</ul>

<h2>Huawei Want to Enter the Cloud Fray</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.cbronline.com/news/cloud/public/cloud-wars-huawei-enters-fray-sets-sights-aws/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Everybody wants a piece of AWS</li>
</ul>

<h2>Microsoft buys Deis</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://cote.io/2017/04/10/microsoft-buys-deis-deeper-into-kubernetes-1-1bn-container-market-notebook/" rel="nofollow">Coté’s notebook on the topic</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Oracle Buys Wercker</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.wercker.com/oracle" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>“container lifecycle management” - foundation for a container PaaS if you tie it to the StackEngine acquisition?</li>
</ul>

<h2>How Many Data Centers Needed World-Wide</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2017/04/how-many-data-centers-needed-world-wide/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Deep cut from James Hamilton, AWS Datacenter guru</li>
<li>Re: Oracle “if you assume the big three are spending roughly equally, how can $1.7B compete with more than $10B when it comes to serving customers?”</li>
<li>“2+1 redundancy is cheaper than 1+1 and, when there are 3 facilities, a single facility can experience a fault without eliminating all redundancy from the system. Consequently, whenever AWS goes into a new region, it’s usual that three new facilities be opened rather than just one with some racks on different power domains.”</li>
<li>“latency is not the prime driver of very large numbers of regions”</li>
<li>“being close to population centers and major communications hubs matters to most operators more than cooling costs”</li>
</ul>

<h2>Canonical/Ubuntu priorities</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Dropping Unity desktop and phone stuff in favor of desktop, cloud &amp; IOT</li>
</ul>

<h2>BrickerBot Bricks Unsecured IOT Devices</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-malware-intentionally-bricks-iot-devices/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>“BrickerBot the work of a vigilante?”</li>
</ul>

<h2>OmniTI Shutting Down OmniOS Development</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lists.omniti.com/pipermail/omnios-discuss/2017-April/008699.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Open source Solaris-compatible clone</li>
<li>“OmniTI will be suspending active development of OmniOS”</li>
</ul>

<h2>Apple makes GarageBand, iMovie and iWork free</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/18/15344834/apple-free-apps-garageband-imovie-pages-keynote-numbers" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>MacOS and IOS!</li>
<li>Keynote is the best, why not open source for an attempt at cross-platform?</li>
</ul>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<ul>
<li>Brandon: <a href="https://stownpodcast.org/" rel="nofollow"><em>S-town</em> podcast</a>, some <a href="https://longform.org/posts/longform-podcast-239-brian-reed" rel="nofollow">background from the creator</a>.</li>
<li>Matt Ray: Google Translate video realtime AR stuff.</li>
<li>Coté: <a href="http://amzn.to/2pyAeak" rel="nofollow"><em>The Big Sleep</em></a>.</li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/">Cloud Foundry Summit is the premier event for enterprise app developers. Want to focus on innovation and streamline your development pipeline? Summit 2017 will make you an expert in microservices and continuous delivery in your language or framework of choice. Fast-track yourself and your business with the quickest way to deliver apps.</a> Promo Code: cfsv17cote</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&amp;">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&amp;">Want 2 days of Spring knowledge? Check out SpringDays in ATL, NYC, and Chicago. Get 50% w/code SpringDays_HalfOff: SpringDays.io in Chicago (May 30th to 31st), New York (June 20th to 21st), and Atlanta (July 18th to 19th)</a> Promo Code: SpringDays_HalfOff</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus">Buckets of Fun</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus">OSCON Expo Plus discount - I wanted to present to you a Free Expo hall Plus Pass for OSCON coming to Austin May 10/11. You get way more than just a pass to the expo, it also covers three full-day events: TensorFlow Day, InnerSource Day, and our Open Container Summit. If you are interested, you can use the code AUSTIN at checkout. You can see the entirety of what is offered here.</a> Promo Code: AUSTIN</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/">Chef</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/">ChefConf 2017 - ChefCon is coming up, May 22nd to 24th in Austin, Texas. Early bird pricing through March 31st. </a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s much news in the container world with DockerCon and Red Hat having had conferences, plus Docker gets a new CEO. We also do a hindsight analysis of what wrong with the losers of the Cloud Wars. And, as always, recommendations from the three of us.</p>

<h1>Mid-roll</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/" rel="nofollow">CF Summit 2017</a> - 20% off registration code: cfsv17cote</li>
<li>Coté: Want 2 days of Spring knowledge? Check out <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&" rel="nofollow">SpringDays in ATL, NYC, and Chicago</a>. Get 50% w/code SpringDays_HalfOff: SpringDays.io in <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/chicago" rel="nofollow">Chicago (May 30th to 31st)</a>, <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/new-york" rel="nofollow">New York (June 20th to 21st)</a>, and <a href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/spring-days/atlanta" rel="nofollow">Atlanta (July 18th to 19th)</a></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus" rel="nofollow">OSCON Expo Plus</a> discount: I wanted to present to you a Free Expo hall Plus Pass for OSCON coming to Austin May 10/11. You get way more than just a pass to the expo, it also covers three full-day events: TensorFlow Day, InnerSource Day, and our Open Container Summit. If you are interested, you can use the code AUSTIN at checkout. You can see the entirety of what is offered <a href="https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</li>
<li>Matt: <a href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/" rel="nofollow">ChefConf May 22-24</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Matt Ray’s APAC Biz Travel Fun</h1>

<ul>
<li>5 different airlines in a month.</li>
<li>Emirates is the best.</li>
<li>This is why we can’t have nice things - American Airlines raises pay.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Red Hat.</h1>

<ul>
<li>Some cloud stuff we need to read-on more.</li>
<li>Check out <a href="https://cote.io/2017/05/01/red-hat-openshift-momentum-highlights/" rel="nofollow">Coté&#39;s summary of a recent Brian Gracely post on the OpenShift momentum</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Cloud Rules Everything Around Me</h1>

<ul>
<li>As <a href="http://news.architecht.io/issues/architecht-daily-it-s-earnings-and-ipo-season-for-cloud-and-cloudera-55782" rel="nofollow">summarized by Derrick</a> (via <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/27/microsoft-azure-growing-faster-than-aws-google-cloud-behind.html" rel="nofollow">CNBC</a>:

<ul>
<li>AWS brought in $3.66 billion in revenue, which was up 42 percent from last year. However, year-over-year growth dropped from last year’s first quarter.</li>
<li>Microsoft’s “Intelligent Cloud” unit, which includes Azure, grew 11 percent, to $6.8 billion. Microsoft doesn’t break out Azure revenue specifically, but said Azure saw a 93 percent increase in revenue over last year.</li>
<li>Google Cloud is buried somewhere in “Other Bets” on Alphabet earnings, a segment that grew 50 percent to $3.1 billion. </li>
</ul></li>
<li>What’s the Halo Effect on this? It’s easy to blame the big vendors for shying away from public cloud but it was some scary shit, business-case wise, back in 2008.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-to-snap-up-remnants-of-verizons-cloud-managed-hosting-business/" rel="nofollow">Verizon sells cloud stuff to IBM</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Docker is now Moby, wait what?</h1>

<ul>
<li>LinuxKit - the host OS, where you run the containers.</li>
<li>“<a href="https://mobyproject.org/" rel="nofollow">Moby</a> is recommended for anyone who wants to assemble a container-based system”</li>
<li>Moby = open source development</li>
<li>Docker CE = free product release based on Moby</li>
<li>Docker EE = commercial product release based on Docker EE</li>
<li>Moby is the name of the upstream umbrella project supervising the open source pieces that are used to build Docker, which is now the commercial-focused product Docker CE/EE</li>
<li><a href="https://osenetwork.com/2017/04/21/" rel="nofollow">Letter about Moby</a>an-open-letter-to-docker-about-moby/</li>
<li>Moby is Fedora, Docker is like RHEL, Eclipse, Genuitec.</li>
<li><a href="https://cote.io/2017/04/22/the-news-from-docker-land-plus-the-money-being-fought-over-notebook/" rel="nofollow">Coté’s Notebook on Moby and such</a></li>
<li><a href="https://cote.io/2017/05/03/dockers-new-ceo-steve-singh-highlights/" rel="nofollow">Coté&#39;s Notebook on Docker&#39;s new CEO</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>BONUS LINKS! Not covered in show.</h1>

<h2>EngineYard done!</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/engine-yard-leader-ruby-rails-131500016.html" rel="nofollow">Press Release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/craig_tracey/status/857004524447432704" rel="nofollow">A snarky Tweet</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/engine-yard-a-leader-in-ruby-on-rails-acquired-by-crossover-to-become-a-full-stack-ruby-platform-300444820.html" rel="nofollow">Another Press Release</a></li>
<li><a href="https://451research.com/report-short?entityId=92309&type=mis&alertid=445&contactid=0033200001wgKCKAA2&utm_source=sendgrid&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=market-insight&utm_content=newsletter&utm_term=92309-Engine+Yard%27s+end+of+the+road+is+acquisition+by+Crossover" rel="nofollow">Jay Lyman at 451</a>: “It generated revenue of about $36m in 2016.” - I seem to recall that EngineYard would report on revenue.</li>
</ul>

<h2>“Native” Windows Server Support for Docker</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/hybridcloud/2017/04/18/dockercon-2017-powering-new-linux-innovations-with-hyper-v-isolation-and-windows-server/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>“Linux containers running natively on Windows Server through our Hyper-V isolation technology”</li>
</ul>

<h2>Sysdig Docker Usage Report 2017</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://sysdig.com/blog/sysdig-docker-usage-report-2017/" rel="nofollow">Link 1</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/3189385/open-source-tools/kubernetes-is-king-in-container-survey.html" rel="nofollow">Link 2</a></li>
<li>Always fun to read “real” numbers</li>
<li>10 containers/host and Kubernetes out in front</li>
</ul>

<h2>Microsoft and the NSA Exploits Leak</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/msrc/2017/04/14/protecting-customers-and-evaluating-risk/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Patch your servers and run modern versions people.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Amazon’s Coming to Australia</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://mashable.com/2017/04/19/amazon-confirms-australia-expansion/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>“The moment Australian retailers have dreaded is here. “</li>
</ul>

<h2>Intel Drops out of OpenStack Innovation Center</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://fortune.com/2017/04/14/intel-openstack-project-rackspace/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>30 Rackers moving internally, Intel is still participating within OpenStack</li>
</ul>

<h2>Huawei Want to Enter the Cloud Fray</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.cbronline.com/news/cloud/public/cloud-wars-huawei-enters-fray-sets-sights-aws/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Everybody wants a piece of AWS</li>
</ul>

<h2>Microsoft buys Deis</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://cote.io/2017/04/10/microsoft-buys-deis-deeper-into-kubernetes-1-1bn-container-market-notebook/" rel="nofollow">Coté’s notebook on the topic</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Oracle Buys Wercker</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.wercker.com/oracle" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>“container lifecycle management” - foundation for a container PaaS if you tie it to the StackEngine acquisition?</li>
</ul>

<h2>How Many Data Centers Needed World-Wide</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2017/04/how-many-data-centers-needed-world-wide/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Deep cut from James Hamilton, AWS Datacenter guru</li>
<li>Re: Oracle “if you assume the big three are spending roughly equally, how can $1.7B compete with more than $10B when it comes to serving customers?”</li>
<li>“2+1 redundancy is cheaper than 1+1 and, when there are 3 facilities, a single facility can experience a fault without eliminating all redundancy from the system. Consequently, whenever AWS goes into a new region, it’s usual that three new facilities be opened rather than just one with some racks on different power domains.”</li>
<li>“latency is not the prime driver of very large numbers of regions”</li>
<li>“being close to population centers and major communications hubs matters to most operators more than cooling costs”</li>
</ul>

<h2>Canonical/Ubuntu priorities</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Dropping Unity desktop and phone stuff in favor of desktop, cloud &amp; IOT</li>
</ul>

<h2>BrickerBot Bricks Unsecured IOT Devices</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-malware-intentionally-bricks-iot-devices/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>“BrickerBot the work of a vigilante?”</li>
</ul>

<h2>OmniTI Shutting Down OmniOS Development</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lists.omniti.com/pipermail/omnios-discuss/2017-April/008699.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>Open source Solaris-compatible clone</li>
<li>“OmniTI will be suspending active development of OmniOS”</li>
</ul>

<h2>Apple makes GarageBand, iMovie and iWork free</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/18/15344834/apple-free-apps-garageband-imovie-pages-keynote-numbers" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>MacOS and IOS!</li>
<li>Keynote is the best, why not open source for an attempt at cross-platform?</li>
</ul>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<ul>
<li>Brandon: <a href="https://stownpodcast.org/" rel="nofollow"><em>S-town</em> podcast</a>, some <a href="https://longform.org/posts/longform-podcast-239-brian-reed" rel="nofollow">background from the creator</a>.</li>
<li>Matt Ray: Google Translate video realtime AR stuff.</li>
<li>Coté: <a href="http://amzn.to/2pyAeak" rel="nofollow"><em>The Big Sleep</em></a>.</li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/event/summit-silicon-valley-2017/">Cloud Foundry Summit is the premier event for enterprise app developers. Want to focus on innovation and streamline your development pipeline? Summit 2017 will make you an expert in microservices and continuous delivery in your language or framework of choice. Fast-track yourself and your business with the quickest way to deliver apps.</a> Promo Code: cfsv17cote</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&amp;">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.springdays.io/ehome/index.php?eventid=228094&amp;">Want 2 days of Spring knowledge? Check out SpringDays in ATL, NYC, and Chicago. Get 50% w/code SpringDays_HalfOff: SpringDays.io in Chicago (May 30th to 31st), New York (June 20th to 21st), and Atlanta (July 18th to 19th)</a> Promo Code: SpringDays_HalfOff</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus">Buckets of Fun</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/oscon-tx/public/content/exhibitplus">OSCON Expo Plus discount - I wanted to present to you a Free Expo hall Plus Pass for OSCON coming to Austin May 10/11. You get way more than just a pass to the expo, it also covers three full-day events: TensorFlow Day, InnerSource Day, and our Open Container Summit. If you are interested, you can use the code AUSTIN at checkout. You can see the entirety of what is offered here.</a> Promo Code: AUSTIN</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/">Chef</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/">ChefConf 2017 - ChefCon is coming up, May 22nd to 24th in Austin, Texas. Early bird pricing through March 31st. </a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:subtitle>There's tell that some people just look at containers as a cheaper way to virtualize, eschewing the fancy-lad "cloud-native stuff." We discuss that idea, plus "the enterprise cloud wars," and some recommendations.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>There's tell that some people just look at containers as a cheaper way to virtualize, eschewing the fancy-lad "cloud-native stuff." We discuss that idea, plus "the enterprise cloud wars," and also our feel that Slack is actually a really good tool and company.
Old folk jokes
Steve Gillmor (https://twitter.com/stevegillmor)
Grandpa walking in and out of Simpson's (http://giphy.com/gifs/fDO2Nk0ImzvvW).
"The Southern Cross" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw9gLjEGJrw)
Follow-up
No call yet from papercall (https://twitter.com/cote/status/832260016346431488)
JJ says when you SSH into a container then you are doing lightweight virtualization. I ask is this really a bad thing? Check it out on Coté Show #21 (http://www.cote.show/21).
It was Hooch, Turner was the human (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_%26_Hooch).
Coté: follow-up, my DevOpsDays Charlotte talk recording is up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJE0c7kY8rg). Also, finally learned how to spell "Charlotte." - See it at cote.io/not-devops (http://cote.io/not-devops)
Slack executes the perfect Freemium
Minimum Delight Experience vs. Minimum Viable Product
Build and charge for the enterprise features required by the Fortune 500
Don't apologize that you don't support Markdown (https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/202288908-Format-your-messages) or other power user features. 
Mid-roll
Coté: we're a media sponsor for DevOpsDays Baltimore (https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2017-baltimore/welcome/), March 7th to 8th. The best how to DevOps experience in Maine this year!! Use the code SDT-BALTIMORE to get 10% off. Pivotal's sponsoring, no Coté, tho.
Also, we have one free ticket to give away. If you want it, write us a review in iTunes and email us up that you did so (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/contact), and we'll semi-randomly select a winner.
Coté: Come see me talk at the Austin Cloud Meetup, Feb 22nd (https://www.meetup.com/Austin-Cloud-Native-Meetup/events/237172788/)
Matt: 
DevOps Melbourne March 28th (https://www.meetup.com/devops-melbourne/events/237351075/) Talking Compliance as Code
ChefCon, May 22nd to May 25th, in Austin, (https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/) Texas. Matt Ray will be there, and we'll likely record a "live-to-tape" episode.
Coté: check out Pivotal's DIY platform paper (http://softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform). tl;dr: for $7m/year with a two year on-ramp, you could build you own, or just buy Pivotal Cloud Foundry. Many of our customers have gone down this path and ended up not wanting to support the life of their own platform...which doesn't match the pace of innovation that the Cloud Foundry community can follow. Check out http://softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform (http://softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform).
Jassy Talks About the Competition
Pretty amazingly candid interview for the say nothing company (http://www.geekwire.com/2017/amazon-cloud-leader-andy-jassy-sizes-competition-rare-public-remarks-rivals/)
"I don't think in our wildest dreams we ever thought we'd have a six- to seven-year head start"
When people say lock-in, it's dog-whistling for "Oracle."
BONUS LINKS! Not covered in show.
AI &amp;amp; the Middle Class
Link (https://www.wired.com/2017/02/ai-threat-isnt-skynet-end-middle-class/)
"If current trends continue, people are going to rise up well before the machines do."
"He also argued that these trends are reversible, that improved education and a greater emphasis on entrepreneurship and research can help feed new engines of growth"... we (the US) are so screwed
Coté: I keep going back to McKinsey saying 70% of work is menial; I'm sure that "study" is wonky and loaded, but still, we do so much bullshit in daily work. Another example: several Pivotal customers (Allstate, HCSC) say they usually get 40%+ productivity improvements because they stop going to meetings and actually code 7 hours a day instead of bullshit.
Grim. Really, really, really grim (https://thenewstack.io/review-automation-wake-call-fill-vacuum-tech-ethics/).
2017 Worldwide Software Developer Salaries
Move to Austin if you want some of that sweet, botton-line margin (https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2017).
"In Austin, the average salary for a software engineer on Hired is $110K. But this is the equivalent to making $198K in San Francisco when you consider the cost of living difference between the two cities."
"...we see a similar trend in Melbourne. Even though Melbourne's average salary for software engineers is a relatively low $83K (A$107K), this is equivalent to making nearly $150K in San Francisco."
Don't Trust the Status Page
FAKE STATUS! (https://blog.ably.io/honest-status-reporting-and-aws-service-status-truth-in-a-post-truth-world-8b9a31c8cc90)
"We cannot trust Amazon AWS status updates because the information provided to us about the severity of the issue or how quickly it will really be resolved"
Reminder: https://www.whoownsmyavailability.com/
Chef Joins the CNCF
Link (https://www.cncf.io/announcement/2017/02/14/cloud-native-computing-foundation-announces-11-new-members-annual-open-source-leadership-summit)
Intel Rolls Out Another Generation of the Itanium
Link (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/15/next_superdome_cpu_chips_amble_into_hpe/)
"HPE will, of course, support its Itanium customers for a number of years, at least until 2025"
Recommendations
Matt: 
Spoon in Sydney! (http://www.frontiertouring.com/spoon)
http://atlasobscura.com I just signed up and started looking for more fun places to check out while traveling. My wife made an entry for Tasmazia (http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tasmazia-and-the-village-of-lower-crackpot)
(Sub-req: Political Gabfest (http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/gabfest.html), The Weeds (http://www.vox.com/the-weeds), Kara Swisher (https://overcast.fm/+F_9GoG-WU).)
Coté: "Don't tell me what to do!" (https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob1/status/832247845302521856/photo/1) Also, Bragg's (http://amzn.to/2ls48v0) and Hindenberg audio editor (https://hindenburg.com).
Brandon: The Upstarts (https://www.audible.com/pd/Bios-Memoirs/The-Upstarts-Audiobook/B01MU30HTG) 
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<h1>Old folk jokes</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/stevegillmor" rel="nofollow">Steve Gillmor</a></li>
<li><a href="http://giphy.com/gifs/fDO2Nk0ImzvvW" rel="nofollow">Grandpa walking in and out of Simpson&#39;s</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw9gLjEGJrw" rel="nofollow">&quot;The Southern Cross&quot;</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Follow-up</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/cote/status/832260016346431488" rel="nofollow">No call yet from papercall</a></li>
<li>JJ says when you SSH into a container then you are doing lightweight virtualization. I ask is this really a bad thing? Check it out on <a href="http://www.cote.show/21" rel="nofollow">Coté Show #21</a>.</li>
<li>It was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_%26_Hooch" rel="nofollow">Hooch, Turner was the human</a>.</li>
<li>Coté: follow-up, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJE0c7kY8rg" rel="nofollow">my DevOpsDays Charlotte talk recording is up</a>. Also, finally learned how to spell &quot;Charlotte.&quot; - See it at <a href="http://cote.io/not-devops" rel="nofollow">cote.io/not-devops</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Slack executes the perfect Freemium</h1>

<ul>
<li>Minimum Delight Experience vs. Minimum Viable Product</li>
<li>Build and charge for the enterprise features required by the Fortune 500</li>
<li>Don&#39;t apologize that you <a href="https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/202288908-Format-your-messages" rel="nofollow">don&#39;t support Markdown</a> or other power user features. </li>
</ul>

<h1>Mid-roll</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté: we&#39;re a media sponsor for <a href="https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2017-baltimore/welcome/" rel="nofollow">DevOpsDays Baltimore</a>, March 7th to 8th. The best how to DevOps experience in Maine this year!! Use the code SDT-BALTIMORE to get 10% off. Pivotal&#39;s sponsoring, no Coté, tho.

<ul>
<li>Also, we have one free ticket to give away. If you want it, write us a review in iTunes and <a href="http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/contact" rel="nofollow">email us up that you did so</a>, and we&#39;ll semi-randomly select a winner.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: Come <a href="https://www.meetup.com/Austin-Cloud-Native-Meetup/events/237172788/" rel="nofollow">see me talk at the Austin Cloud Meetup, Feb 22nd</a></li>
<li>Matt: 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.meetup.com/devops-melbourne/events/237351075/" rel="nofollow">DevOps Melbourne March 28th</a> Talking Compliance as Code</li>
<li><a href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/" rel="nofollow">ChefCon, May 22nd to May 25th, in Austin,</a> Texas. Matt Ray will be there, and we&#39;ll likely record a &quot;live-to-tape&quot; episode.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: check <a href="http://softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform" rel="nofollow">out Pivotal&#39;s DIY platform paper</a>. tl;dr: for $7m/year with a two year on-ramp, you could build you own, or just buy Pivotal Cloud Foundry. Many of our customers have gone down this path and ended up not wanting to support the life of their own platform...which doesn&#39;t match the pace of innovation that the Cloud Foundry community can follow. Check out <a href="http://softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform" rel="nofollow">http://softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Jassy Talks About the Competition</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.geekwire.com/2017/amazon-cloud-leader-andy-jassy-sizes-competition-rare-public-remarks-rivals/" rel="nofollow">Pretty amazingly candid interview for the say nothing company</a></li>
<li>&quot;I don&#39;t think in our wildest dreams we ever thought we&#39;d have a six- to seven-year head start&quot;</li>
<li>When people say lock-in, it&#39;s dog-whistling for &quot;Oracle.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<h2>BONUS LINKS! Not covered in show.</h2>

<h2>AI &amp; the Middle Class</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/2017/02/ai-threat-isnt-skynet-end-middle-class/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>&quot;If current trends continue, people are going to rise up well before the machines do.&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;He also argued that these trends are reversible, that improved education and a greater emphasis on entrepreneurship and research can help feed new engines of growth&quot;... we (the US) are so screwed</li>
<li>Coté: I keep going back to McKinsey saying 70% of work is menial; I&#39;m sure that &quot;study&quot; is wonky and loaded, but still, we do so much bullshit in daily work. Another example: several Pivotal customers (Allstate, HCSC) say they usually get 40%+ productivity improvements because they stop going to meetings and actually code 7 hours a day instead of bullshit.</li>
<li>Grim. <a href="https://thenewstack.io/review-automation-wake-call-fill-vacuum-tech-ethics/" rel="nofollow">Really, really, really grim</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>2017 Worldwide Software Developer Salaries</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2017" rel="nofollow">Move to Austin if you want some of that sweet, botton-line margin</a>.</li>
<li>&quot;In Austin, the average salary for a software engineer on Hired is $110K. But this is the equivalent to making $198K in San Francisco when you consider the cost of living difference between the two cities.&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;...we see a similar trend in Melbourne. Even though Melbourne&#39;s average salary for software engineers is a relatively low $83K (A$107K), this is equivalent to making nearly $150K in San Francisco.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<h2>Don&#39;t Trust the Status Page</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.ably.io/honest-status-reporting-and-aws-service-status-truth-in-a-post-truth-world-8b9a31c8cc90" rel="nofollow">FAKE STATUS!</a></li>
<li>&quot;We cannot trust Amazon AWS status updates because the information provided to us about the severity of the issue or how quickly it will really be resolved&quot;</li>
<li>Reminder: <a href="https://www.whoownsmyavailability.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.whoownsmyavailability.com/</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Chef Joins the CNCF</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.cncf.io/announcement/2017/02/14/cloud-native-computing-foundation-announces-11-new-members-annual-open-source-leadership-summit" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Intel Rolls Out Another Generation of the Itanium</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/15/next_superdome_cpu_chips_amble_into_hpe/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>&quot;HPE will, of course, support its Itanium customers for a number of years, at least until 2025&quot;</li>
</ul>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<ul>
<li>Matt: 

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.frontiertouring.com/spoon" rel="nofollow">Spoon in Sydney!</a></li>
<li><a href="http://atlasobscura.com" rel="nofollow">http://atlasobscura.com</a> I just signed up and started looking for more fun places to check out while traveling. My wife made an entry for <a href="http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tasmazia-and-the-village-of-lower-crackpot" rel="nofollow">Tasmazia</a></li>
<li>(Sub-req: <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/gabfest.html" rel="nofollow">Political Gabfest</a>, <a href="http://www.vox.com/the-weeds" rel="nofollow">The Weeds</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/+F_9GoG-WU" rel="nofollow">Kara Swisher</a>.)</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob1/status/832247845302521856/photo/1" rel="nofollow">&quot;Don&#39;t tell me what to do!&quot;</a> Also, <a href="http://amzn.to/2ls48v0" rel="nofollow">Bragg&#39;s</a> and <a href="https://hindenburg.com" rel="nofollow">Hindenberg audio editor</a>.</li>
<li>Brandon: <a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Bios-Memoirs/The-Upstarts-Audiobook/B01MU30HTG" rel="nofollow"><em>The Upstarts</em></a></li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/">Chef</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/">ChefConf 2017 - ChefCon is coming up, May 22nd to 24th in Austin, Texas. Early bird pricing through March 31st. </a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform">Why you shouldn't build your own platform, it'll cost ~$7m/year, even before chunky coconut water opex.</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.meetup.com/Austin-Cloud-Native-Meetup/events/237172788/">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.meetup.com/Austin-Cloud-Native-Meetup/events/237172788/">Come see Coté talk about how big companies are succeeding and failing at DevOps, cloud native, and "digital transformation. Based on real life events!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2017-baltimore/welcome/">DevOpsDays</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2017-baltimore/welcome/">March 7th to March 8th - another fantastic DevOpsDays, in Baltimore. Get 10% registration off with the promo code SDT-BALTIMORE.</a> Promo Code: SDT-BALTIMORE</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.meetup.com/devops-melbourne/events/237351075/">Chef</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.meetup.com/devops-melbourne/events/237351075/">DevOps Meetup, Melbourne March 28th - Come see Matt Ray talking "Compliance as Code."</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s tell that some people just look at containers as a cheaper way to virtualize, eschewing the fancy-lad &quot;cloud-native stuff.&quot; We discuss that idea, plus &quot;the enterprise cloud wars,&quot; and also our feel that Slack is actually a really good tool and company.</p>

<h1>Old folk jokes</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/stevegillmor" rel="nofollow">Steve Gillmor</a></li>
<li><a href="http://giphy.com/gifs/fDO2Nk0ImzvvW" rel="nofollow">Grandpa walking in and out of Simpson&#39;s</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw9gLjEGJrw" rel="nofollow">&quot;The Southern Cross&quot;</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Follow-up</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/cote/status/832260016346431488" rel="nofollow">No call yet from papercall</a></li>
<li>JJ says when you SSH into a container then you are doing lightweight virtualization. I ask is this really a bad thing? Check it out on <a href="http://www.cote.show/21" rel="nofollow">Coté Show #21</a>.</li>
<li>It was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_%26_Hooch" rel="nofollow">Hooch, Turner was the human</a>.</li>
<li>Coté: follow-up, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJE0c7kY8rg" rel="nofollow">my DevOpsDays Charlotte talk recording is up</a>. Also, finally learned how to spell &quot;Charlotte.&quot; - See it at <a href="http://cote.io/not-devops" rel="nofollow">cote.io/not-devops</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Slack executes the perfect Freemium</h1>

<ul>
<li>Minimum Delight Experience vs. Minimum Viable Product</li>
<li>Build and charge for the enterprise features required by the Fortune 500</li>
<li>Don&#39;t apologize that you <a href="https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/202288908-Format-your-messages" rel="nofollow">don&#39;t support Markdown</a> or other power user features. </li>
</ul>

<h1>Mid-roll</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté: we&#39;re a media sponsor for <a href="https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2017-baltimore/welcome/" rel="nofollow">DevOpsDays Baltimore</a>, March 7th to 8th. The best how to DevOps experience in Maine this year!! Use the code SDT-BALTIMORE to get 10% off. Pivotal&#39;s sponsoring, no Coté, tho.

<ul>
<li>Also, we have one free ticket to give away. If you want it, write us a review in iTunes and <a href="http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/contact" rel="nofollow">email us up that you did so</a>, and we&#39;ll semi-randomly select a winner.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: Come <a href="https://www.meetup.com/Austin-Cloud-Native-Meetup/events/237172788/" rel="nofollow">see me talk at the Austin Cloud Meetup, Feb 22nd</a></li>
<li>Matt: 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.meetup.com/devops-melbourne/events/237351075/" rel="nofollow">DevOps Melbourne March 28th</a> Talking Compliance as Code</li>
<li><a href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/" rel="nofollow">ChefCon, May 22nd to May 25th, in Austin,</a> Texas. Matt Ray will be there, and we&#39;ll likely record a &quot;live-to-tape&quot; episode.</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: check <a href="http://softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform" rel="nofollow">out Pivotal&#39;s DIY platform paper</a>. tl;dr: for $7m/year with a two year on-ramp, you could build you own, or just buy Pivotal Cloud Foundry. Many of our customers have gone down this path and ended up not wanting to support the life of their own platform...which doesn&#39;t match the pace of innovation that the Cloud Foundry community can follow. Check out <a href="http://softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform" rel="nofollow">http://softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Jassy Talks About the Competition</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.geekwire.com/2017/amazon-cloud-leader-andy-jassy-sizes-competition-rare-public-remarks-rivals/" rel="nofollow">Pretty amazingly candid interview for the say nothing company</a></li>
<li>&quot;I don&#39;t think in our wildest dreams we ever thought we&#39;d have a six- to seven-year head start&quot;</li>
<li>When people say lock-in, it&#39;s dog-whistling for &quot;Oracle.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<h2>BONUS LINKS! Not covered in show.</h2>

<h2>AI &amp; the Middle Class</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wired.com/2017/02/ai-threat-isnt-skynet-end-middle-class/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>&quot;If current trends continue, people are going to rise up well before the machines do.&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;He also argued that these trends are reversible, that improved education and a greater emphasis on entrepreneurship and research can help feed new engines of growth&quot;... we (the US) are so screwed</li>
<li>Coté: I keep going back to McKinsey saying 70% of work is menial; I&#39;m sure that &quot;study&quot; is wonky and loaded, but still, we do so much bullshit in daily work. Another example: several Pivotal customers (Allstate, HCSC) say they usually get 40%+ productivity improvements because they stop going to meetings and actually code 7 hours a day instead of bullshit.</li>
<li>Grim. <a href="https://thenewstack.io/review-automation-wake-call-fill-vacuum-tech-ethics/" rel="nofollow">Really, really, really grim</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>2017 Worldwide Software Developer Salaries</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2017" rel="nofollow">Move to Austin if you want some of that sweet, botton-line margin</a>.</li>
<li>&quot;In Austin, the average salary for a software engineer on Hired is $110K. But this is the equivalent to making $198K in San Francisco when you consider the cost of living difference between the two cities.&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;...we see a similar trend in Melbourne. Even though Melbourne&#39;s average salary for software engineers is a relatively low $83K (A$107K), this is equivalent to making nearly $150K in San Francisco.&quot;</li>
</ul>

<h2>Don&#39;t Trust the Status Page</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.ably.io/honest-status-reporting-and-aws-service-status-truth-in-a-post-truth-world-8b9a31c8cc90" rel="nofollow">FAKE STATUS!</a></li>
<li>&quot;We cannot trust Amazon AWS status updates because the information provided to us about the severity of the issue or how quickly it will really be resolved&quot;</li>
<li>Reminder: <a href="https://www.whoownsmyavailability.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.whoownsmyavailability.com/</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Chef Joins the CNCF</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.cncf.io/announcement/2017/02/14/cloud-native-computing-foundation-announces-11-new-members-annual-open-source-leadership-summit" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
</ul>

<h2>Intel Rolls Out Another Generation of the Itanium</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/15/next_superdome_cpu_chips_amble_into_hpe/" rel="nofollow">Link</a></li>
<li>&quot;HPE will, of course, support its Itanium customers for a number of years, at least until 2025&quot;</li>
</ul>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<ul>
<li>Matt: 

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.frontiertouring.com/spoon" rel="nofollow">Spoon in Sydney!</a></li>
<li><a href="http://atlasobscura.com" rel="nofollow">http://atlasobscura.com</a> I just signed up and started looking for more fun places to check out while traveling. My wife made an entry for <a href="http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tasmazia-and-the-village-of-lower-crackpot" rel="nofollow">Tasmazia</a></li>
<li>(Sub-req: <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/gabfest.html" rel="nofollow">Political Gabfest</a>, <a href="http://www.vox.com/the-weeds" rel="nofollow">The Weeds</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/+F_9GoG-WU" rel="nofollow">Kara Swisher</a>.)</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob1/status/832247845302521856/photo/1" rel="nofollow">&quot;Don&#39;t tell me what to do!&quot;</a> Also, <a href="http://amzn.to/2ls48v0" rel="nofollow">Bragg&#39;s</a> and <a href="https://hindenburg.com" rel="nofollow">Hindenberg audio editor</a>.</li>
<li>Brandon: <a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Bios-Memoirs/The-Upstarts-Audiobook/B01MU30HTG" rel="nofollow"><em>The Upstarts</em></a></li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/">Chef</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://chefconf.chef.io/2017/">ChefConf 2017 - ChefCon is coming up, May 22nd to 24th in Austin, Texas. Early bird pricing through March 31st. </a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/diyplatform">Why you shouldn't build your own platform, it'll cost ~$7m/year, even before chunky coconut water opex.</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.meetup.com/Austin-Cloud-Native-Meetup/events/237172788/">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.meetup.com/Austin-Cloud-Native-Meetup/events/237172788/">Come see Coté talk about how big companies are succeeding and failing at DevOps, cloud native, and "digital transformation. Based on real life events!</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2017-baltimore/welcome/">DevOpsDays</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2017-baltimore/welcome/">March 7th to March 8th - another fantastic DevOpsDays, in Baltimore. Get 10% registration off with the promo code SDT-BALTIMORE.</a> Promo Code: SDT-BALTIMORE</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.meetup.com/devops-melbourne/events/237351075/">Chef</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.meetup.com/devops-melbourne/events/237351075/">DevOps Meetup, Melbourne March 28th - Come see Matt Ray talking "Compliance as Code."</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 80: The case for flying Southwest and Oracle buying Dyn, and containers</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 00:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
  <author>Software Defined Talk LLC</author>
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  <itunes:episode>80</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>The case for flying Southwest and Oracle buying Dyn, and containers</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>With all those domestic, direct flights, the gang lays out the case for Southwest. Coté salivates at the prospect but is worried about sitting next to chicken cages, but there's plenty of $500 shoe sales people on board. We also discuss Oracle buying Dyn, AWS's power, the looming cloud success of Microsoft, and, of course, containers.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>45:37</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>With all the domestic, direct flight, the gang lays out the case for Southwest. Coté salivates at the prospect but is worried about sitting next to chicken cages, but there's plenty of $500 shoe sales people on board. We also discuss Oracle buying Dyn, AWS's power, the looming cloud success of Microsoft, and, of course, containers.
Octogenarian style: It’s episode 80! The Brittle Bones Anniversary.
Feedback &amp;amp; Follow-up
At least one person came correct (https://twitter.com/scrub/status/800844876908789760) and said CostCo.
I think we’re now in the 2,000 to 2,500 downloads range (https://twitter.com/SoftwareDefTalk/status/803315322996555781). Good job listeners!
Mid-roll
Coté: stop the container madness and just use Pivotal Cloud Foundry (http://cote.io/pivotal).
Coté: the Cloud Native roadshows are over, but check out the cloud native WIP I have: - or, just check out some excerpts on working with auditors (https://medium.com/@cote/auditors-your-new-bffs-918c8671897a#.et5tv7p7l), selecting initial projects (https://medium.com/@cote/getting-started-picking-your-first-cloud-native-projects-or-every-digital-transformation-starts-d0b1295f3712#.v7jpyjvro), and dealing with legacy (https://medium.com/built-to-adapt/deal-with-legacy-before-it-deals-with-you-cc907c800845#.ixtz1kqdz).
Matt: Dec 1st and 2nd - DevOps Days Australia 20% discount code - SDT2016 (https://ti.to/devopsaustralia/2016-sydney/discount/SDT2016).
Matt: Sydney AWS Meetups: December 6 (https://www.meetup.com/Amazon-Web-Services-Sydney-North-User-Group/events/235116364/), December 7 (https://www.meetup.com/AWS-Sydney/events/230091220/).
Oracle Buys Dyn
Coté needs a dial-a-friend on this one.
Fleshing out their cloud coverage (https://www.oracle.com/corporate/acquisitions/dyn/index.html)
This is what Coté frequently concluded when doing cloud strategy (https://twitter.com/craig_tracey/status/800742523270402048)
Softlayer and AWS compared (https://medium.com/worm-capital/does-ibm-have-an-accounting-problem-in-softlayer-ccafd582059c#.5fcng7ctc)
Sorry Oracle, Taking Down AWS is Alibaba’s Job
“Alibaba Cloud president Simon Hu has said the company is working to surpass AWS within four years.” (http://www.itnews.com.au/news/aws-rival-alibaba-to-open-sydney-data-centre-442145)
We’ll see if YUGEly can wrap his head around IaaS protectionism.
Skyliner.io
“You only get one hill to die on, so choose wisely” (https://blog.skyliner.io/the-happy-genius-of-my-household-2f76efba535a)
New AWS-native PaaS from Etsy/Stripe/SquareSpace veterans
Coté: I feel like I’ve read this blog post before. Maybe I even wrote it? So much typing.
Microsoft Joins the Linux Foundation - we’re beyond the cats and dogs mirror!
Steve Ballmer is spinning in his grave (https://www.linuxfoundation.org/announcements/microsoft-fortifies-commitment-to-open-source-becomes-linux-foundation-platinum)
More than just Linux (http://www.infoworld.com/article/3142128/open-source-tools/4-no-bull-takeaways-from-microsoft-joining-the-linux-foundation.html)
Add to this Visual Studio on the Mac (http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/14/13621116/microsoft-visual-studio-coming-to-mac).
Google joined .Net Foundation (https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/11/Google-Cloud-to-join-NET-Foundation-Technical-Steering-Group.html)
Windows, internet, phone, cloud
BONUS LINKS! Not covered in show
Recent Coté Nonsense
“Largile” (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/21/largile_for_management_babies/)
Recent DevOps books review (http://thenewstack.io/review-understanding-devops-putting-place-even-scale/).
Red Hat wants to make Kubernetes boring (and successful)
They’ve certainly made OpenStack boring (zing!)
“Not that Red Hat is calling Kubernetes "boring." (http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-red-hat-aims-to-make-kubernetes-boring-and-successful/) Instead, they're calling it "Enterprise-Ready," which is basically the same thing.”
I dig that Matt Asay style. Dude knows how to pick a quick topic.
The End of General Purpose Computing
More precisely, as the title says “The End of the General Purpose Operating System“
“What we're witnessing in the market is the development of vertically integrated stacks” (http://www.morethanseven.net/2016/11/05/the-end-of-the-general-purpose-operating-system-as-it-happens/)
“In all of these cases the operating system is an implementation detail of the higher level software. It's not intended to be directly managed, or at least managed to the same degree as the general purpose OS you're running today.”
Apple Drops AirPort Routers
I’ve got 3 of them, pretty solid (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-21/apple-said-to-abandon-development-of-wireless-routers-ivs0ssec).
We don’t talk about Apple much here. Possible topic: what’s up with Apple now-a-days?
Trump vs. Tech
“Now we will have a president whose affinity for high-tech seems limited to Twitter bullying” (https://backchannel.com/tech-ceos-nightmare-a-president-totally-at-odds-with-their-values-20dd7b01e037#.tbk9vft4z)
Interesting when you think that the heads of Google, Microsoft, Apple and probably Amazon (Bezos owns Washington Post) are all at odds with Trump. Facebook is trying to not piss anyone off. Not sure if we want to talk about it, so maybe it’s just a show note.
MacOS Security and Privacy Guide
Lots of practical tips for a safer Mac experience (https://github.com/drduh/macOS-Security-and-Privacy-Guide)
Black Friday &amp;amp; Cyber Monday
"the sweet smell of cyber dealz" (https://twitter.com/rachelbinx/status/803335197785632769)
Recommendations
Brandon: Left, Right, Center (https://www.amazon.com/Left-Center-Right-Dice-Game/dp/B005UP14VY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1480369890&amp;amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;amp;keywords=dice+game+left+center+right&amp;amp;psc=1)
Matt: 
Thanksgiving in Sydney: http://www.musicalsoupeaters.com/thanksgiving/
Magpie Attacks (http://www.musicalsoupeaters.com/swooping-season/)!
Play your music at 10x slowdown, makes for good ambient listening. It’s up on GitHub if you want to do it to your own music collection (http://slowradio.rumblesan.com/), currently Ogg-only :(
Coté: It Follows (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Follows). 
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    <![CDATA[<p>With all the domestic, direct flight, the gang lays out the case for Southwest. Coté salivates at the prospect but is worried about sitting next to chicken cages, but there&#39;s plenty of $500 shoe sales people on board. We also discuss Oracle buying Dyn, AWS&#39;s power, the looming cloud success of Microsoft, and, of course, containers.</p>

<p>Octogenarian style: It’s episode 80! The Brittle Bones Anniversary.</p>

<h1>Feedback &amp; Follow-up</h1>

<ul>
<li>At least one person <a href="https://twitter.com/scrub/status/800844876908789760" rel="nofollow">came correct</a> and said CostCo.</li>
<li>I think we’re now in <a href="https://twitter.com/SoftwareDefTalk/status/803315322996555781" rel="nofollow">the 2,000 to 2,500 downloads range</a>. Good job listeners!</li>
</ul>

<h1>Mid-roll</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté: stop the container madness and <a href="http://cote.io/pivotal" rel="nofollow">just use Pivotal Cloud Foundry</a>.</li>
<li>Coté: the Cloud Native roadshows are over, but check out the cloud native WIP I have: - or, just check out some excerpts on <a href="https://medium.com/@cote/auditors-your-new-bffs-918c8671897a#.et5tv7p7l" rel="nofollow">working with auditors</a>, <a href="https://medium.com/@cote/getting-started-picking-your-first-cloud-native-projects-or-every-digital-transformation-starts-d0b1295f3712#.v7jpyjvro" rel="nofollow">selecting initial projects</a>, and <a href="https://medium.com/built-to-adapt/deal-with-legacy-before-it-deals-with-you-cc907c800845#.ixtz1kqdz" rel="nofollow">dealing with legacy</a>.</li>
<li>Matt: Dec 1st and 2nd - DevOps Days Australia 20% <a href="https://ti.to/devopsaustralia/2016-sydney/discount/SDT2016" rel="nofollow">discount code - SDT2016</a>.</li>
<li>Matt: Sydney AWS Meetups: <a href="https://www.meetup.com/Amazon-Web-Services-Sydney-North-User-Group/events/235116364/" rel="nofollow">December 6</a>, <a href="https://www.meetup.com/AWS-Sydney/events/230091220/" rel="nofollow">December 7</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Oracle Buys Dyn</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté needs a dial-a-friend on this one.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/corporate/acquisitions/dyn/index.html" rel="nofollow">Fleshing out their cloud coverage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/craig_tracey/status/800742523270402048" rel="nofollow">This is what Coté frequently concluded when doing cloud strategy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://medium.com/worm-capital/does-ibm-have-an-accounting-problem-in-softlayer-ccafd582059c#.5fcng7ctc" rel="nofollow">Softlayer and AWS compared</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Sorry Oracle, Taking Down AWS is Alibaba’s Job</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/news/aws-rival-alibaba-to-open-sydney-data-centre-442145" rel="nofollow">“Alibaba Cloud president Simon Hu has said the company is working to surpass AWS within four years.”</a></li>
<li>We’ll see if YUGEly can wrap his head around IaaS protectionism.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Skyliner.io</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.skyliner.io/the-happy-genius-of-my-household-2f76efba535a" rel="nofollow">“You only get one hill to die on, so choose wisely”</a></li>
<li>New AWS-native PaaS from Etsy/Stripe/SquareSpace veterans</li>
<li>Coté: I feel like I’ve read this blog post before. Maybe I even wrote it? So much typing.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Microsoft Joins the Linux Foundation - we’re beyond the cats and dogs mirror!</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/announcements/microsoft-fortifies-commitment-to-open-source-becomes-linux-foundation-platinum" rel="nofollow">Steve Ballmer is spinning in his grave</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/3142128/open-source-tools/4-no-bull-takeaways-from-microsoft-joining-the-linux-foundation.html" rel="nofollow">More than just Linux</a></li>
<li>Add to this <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/14/13621116/microsoft-visual-studio-coming-to-mac" rel="nofollow">Visual Studio on the Mac</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/11/Google-Cloud-to-join-NET-Foundation-Technical-Steering-Group.html" rel="nofollow">Google joined .Net Foundation</a>
Windows, internet, phone, cloud</li>
</ul>

<h1>BONUS LINKS! Not covered in show</h1>

<h2>Recent Coté Nonsense</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/21/largile_for_management_babies/" rel="nofollow">“Largile”</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thenewstack.io/review-understanding-devops-putting-place-even-scale/" rel="nofollow">Recent DevOps books review</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Red Hat wants to make Kubernetes boring (and successful)</h2>

<ul>
<li>They’ve certainly made OpenStack boring (zing!)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-red-hat-aims-to-make-kubernetes-boring-and-successful/" rel="nofollow">“Not that Red Hat is calling Kubernetes &quot;boring.&quot;</a> Instead, they&#39;re calling it &quot;Enterprise-Ready,&quot; which is basically the same thing.”</li>
<li>I dig that Matt Asay style. Dude knows how to pick a quick topic.</li>
</ul>

<h2>The End of General Purpose Computing</h2>

<ul>
<li>More precisely, as the title says “The End of the General Purpose Operating System“</li>
<li><a href="http://www.morethanseven.net/2016/11/05/the-end-of-the-general-purpose-operating-system-as-it-happens/" rel="nofollow">“What we&#39;re witnessing in the market is the development of vertically integrated stacks”</a></li>
<li>“In all of these cases the operating system is an implementation detail of the higher level software. It&#39;s not intended to be directly managed, or at least managed to the same degree as the general purpose OS you&#39;re running today.”</li>
</ul>

<h2>Apple Drops AirPort Routers</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-21/apple-said-to-abandon-development-of-wireless-routers-ivs0ssec" rel="nofollow">I’ve got 3 of them, pretty solid</a>.</li>
<li>We don’t talk about Apple much here. Possible topic: what’s up with Apple now-a-days?</li>
</ul>

<h2>Trump vs. Tech</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://backchannel.com/tech-ceos-nightmare-a-president-totally-at-odds-with-their-values-20dd7b01e037#.tbk9vft4z" rel="nofollow">“Now we will have a president whose affinity for high-tech seems limited to Twitter bullying”</a></li>
<li>Interesting when you think that the heads of Google, Microsoft, Apple and probably Amazon (Bezos owns Washington Post) are all at odds with Trump. Facebook is trying to not piss anyone off. Not sure if we want to talk about it, so maybe it’s just a show note.</li>
</ul>

<h1>MacOS Security and Privacy Guide</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/drduh/macOS-Security-and-Privacy-Guide" rel="nofollow">Lots of practical tips for a safer Mac experience</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Black Friday &amp; Cyber Monday</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/rachelbinx/status/803335197785632769" rel="nofollow">&quot;the sweet smell of cyber dealz&quot;</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<ul>
<li>Brandon: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Left-Center-Right-Dice-Game/dp/B005UP14VY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480369890&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=dice+game+left+center+right&psc=1" rel="nofollow">Left, Right, Center</a></li>
<li>Matt: 

<ul>
<li>Thanksgiving in Sydney: <a href="http://www.musicalsoupeaters.com/thanksgiving/" rel="nofollow">http://www.musicalsoupeaters.com/thanksgiving/</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.musicalsoupeaters.com/swooping-season/" rel="nofollow">Magpie Attacks</a>!</li>
<li>Play your music at 10x slowdown, makes for good ambient listening. <a href="http://slowradio.rumblesan.com/" rel="nofollow">It’s up on GitHub if you want to do it to your own music collection</a>, currently Ogg-only :(</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Follows" rel="nofollow"><em>It Follows</em></a>.</li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://ti.to/devopsaustralia/2016-sydney/discount/SDT2016">DevOpsDays</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://ti.to/devopsaustralia/2016-sydney/discount/SDT2016">DevOpsDays Australia is in Sydney, December 1st and 2nd. Listeners can get 20% off using the code SDT2016.</a> Promo Code: SDT2016</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://cote.io/pivotal/">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://cote.io/pivotal/">Check out free books from O'Reilly Pivotal on microservices, cloud foundry, and putting your cloud native strategy in place.</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://cote.io/cloud2/">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://cote.io/cloud2/">Check out Coté's work in progress, the ~50 page cloud native journey, edition two book. It coverers the common questions, best practices, and snarky takes on doing better software in large organizations.</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>With all the domestic, direct flight, the gang lays out the case for Southwest. Coté salivates at the prospect but is worried about sitting next to chicken cages, but there&#39;s plenty of $500 shoe sales people on board. We also discuss Oracle buying Dyn, AWS&#39;s power, the looming cloud success of Microsoft, and, of course, containers.</p>

<p>Octogenarian style: It’s episode 80! The Brittle Bones Anniversary.</p>

<h1>Feedback &amp; Follow-up</h1>

<ul>
<li>At least one person <a href="https://twitter.com/scrub/status/800844876908789760" rel="nofollow">came correct</a> and said CostCo.</li>
<li>I think we’re now in <a href="https://twitter.com/SoftwareDefTalk/status/803315322996555781" rel="nofollow">the 2,000 to 2,500 downloads range</a>. Good job listeners!</li>
</ul>

<h1>Mid-roll</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté: stop the container madness and <a href="http://cote.io/pivotal" rel="nofollow">just use Pivotal Cloud Foundry</a>.</li>
<li>Coté: the Cloud Native roadshows are over, but check out the cloud native WIP I have: - or, just check out some excerpts on <a href="https://medium.com/@cote/auditors-your-new-bffs-918c8671897a#.et5tv7p7l" rel="nofollow">working with auditors</a>, <a href="https://medium.com/@cote/getting-started-picking-your-first-cloud-native-projects-or-every-digital-transformation-starts-d0b1295f3712#.v7jpyjvro" rel="nofollow">selecting initial projects</a>, and <a href="https://medium.com/built-to-adapt/deal-with-legacy-before-it-deals-with-you-cc907c800845#.ixtz1kqdz" rel="nofollow">dealing with legacy</a>.</li>
<li>Matt: Dec 1st and 2nd - DevOps Days Australia 20% <a href="https://ti.to/devopsaustralia/2016-sydney/discount/SDT2016" rel="nofollow">discount code - SDT2016</a>.</li>
<li>Matt: Sydney AWS Meetups: <a href="https://www.meetup.com/Amazon-Web-Services-Sydney-North-User-Group/events/235116364/" rel="nofollow">December 6</a>, <a href="https://www.meetup.com/AWS-Sydney/events/230091220/" rel="nofollow">December 7</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Oracle Buys Dyn</h1>

<ul>
<li>Coté needs a dial-a-friend on this one.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/corporate/acquisitions/dyn/index.html" rel="nofollow">Fleshing out their cloud coverage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/craig_tracey/status/800742523270402048" rel="nofollow">This is what Coté frequently concluded when doing cloud strategy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://medium.com/worm-capital/does-ibm-have-an-accounting-problem-in-softlayer-ccafd582059c#.5fcng7ctc" rel="nofollow">Softlayer and AWS compared</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Sorry Oracle, Taking Down AWS is Alibaba’s Job</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/news/aws-rival-alibaba-to-open-sydney-data-centre-442145" rel="nofollow">“Alibaba Cloud president Simon Hu has said the company is working to surpass AWS within four years.”</a></li>
<li>We’ll see if YUGEly can wrap his head around IaaS protectionism.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Skyliner.io</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.skyliner.io/the-happy-genius-of-my-household-2f76efba535a" rel="nofollow">“You only get one hill to die on, so choose wisely”</a></li>
<li>New AWS-native PaaS from Etsy/Stripe/SquareSpace veterans</li>
<li>Coté: I feel like I’ve read this blog post before. Maybe I even wrote it? So much typing.</li>
</ul>

<h1>Microsoft Joins the Linux Foundation - we’re beyond the cats and dogs mirror!</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/announcements/microsoft-fortifies-commitment-to-open-source-becomes-linux-foundation-platinum" rel="nofollow">Steve Ballmer is spinning in his grave</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/3142128/open-source-tools/4-no-bull-takeaways-from-microsoft-joining-the-linux-foundation.html" rel="nofollow">More than just Linux</a></li>
<li>Add to this <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/14/13621116/microsoft-visual-studio-coming-to-mac" rel="nofollow">Visual Studio on the Mac</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/11/Google-Cloud-to-join-NET-Foundation-Technical-Steering-Group.html" rel="nofollow">Google joined .Net Foundation</a>
Windows, internet, phone, cloud</li>
</ul>

<h1>BONUS LINKS! Not covered in show</h1>

<h2>Recent Coté Nonsense</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/21/largile_for_management_babies/" rel="nofollow">“Largile”</a></li>
<li><a href="http://thenewstack.io/review-understanding-devops-putting-place-even-scale/" rel="nofollow">Recent DevOps books review</a>.</li>
</ul>

<h2>Red Hat wants to make Kubernetes boring (and successful)</h2>

<ul>
<li>They’ve certainly made OpenStack boring (zing!)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-red-hat-aims-to-make-kubernetes-boring-and-successful/" rel="nofollow">“Not that Red Hat is calling Kubernetes &quot;boring.&quot;</a> Instead, they&#39;re calling it &quot;Enterprise-Ready,&quot; which is basically the same thing.”</li>
<li>I dig that Matt Asay style. Dude knows how to pick a quick topic.</li>
</ul>

<h2>The End of General Purpose Computing</h2>

<ul>
<li>More precisely, as the title says “The End of the General Purpose Operating System“</li>
<li><a href="http://www.morethanseven.net/2016/11/05/the-end-of-the-general-purpose-operating-system-as-it-happens/" rel="nofollow">“What we&#39;re witnessing in the market is the development of vertically integrated stacks”</a></li>
<li>“In all of these cases the operating system is an implementation detail of the higher level software. It&#39;s not intended to be directly managed, or at least managed to the same degree as the general purpose OS you&#39;re running today.”</li>
</ul>

<h2>Apple Drops AirPort Routers</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-21/apple-said-to-abandon-development-of-wireless-routers-ivs0ssec" rel="nofollow">I’ve got 3 of them, pretty solid</a>.</li>
<li>We don’t talk about Apple much here. Possible topic: what’s up with Apple now-a-days?</li>
</ul>

<h2>Trump vs. Tech</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://backchannel.com/tech-ceos-nightmare-a-president-totally-at-odds-with-their-values-20dd7b01e037#.tbk9vft4z" rel="nofollow">“Now we will have a president whose affinity for high-tech seems limited to Twitter bullying”</a></li>
<li>Interesting when you think that the heads of Google, Microsoft, Apple and probably Amazon (Bezos owns Washington Post) are all at odds with Trump. Facebook is trying to not piss anyone off. Not sure if we want to talk about it, so maybe it’s just a show note.</li>
</ul>

<h1>MacOS Security and Privacy Guide</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://github.com/drduh/macOS-Security-and-Privacy-Guide" rel="nofollow">Lots of practical tips for a safer Mac experience</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Black Friday &amp; Cyber Monday</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/rachelbinx/status/803335197785632769" rel="nofollow">&quot;the sweet smell of cyber dealz&quot;</a></li>
</ul>

<h1>Recommendations</h1>

<ul>
<li>Brandon: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Left-Center-Right-Dice-Game/dp/B005UP14VY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480369890&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=dice+game+left+center+right&psc=1" rel="nofollow">Left, Right, Center</a></li>
<li>Matt: 

<ul>
<li>Thanksgiving in Sydney: <a href="http://www.musicalsoupeaters.com/thanksgiving/" rel="nofollow">http://www.musicalsoupeaters.com/thanksgiving/</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.musicalsoupeaters.com/swooping-season/" rel="nofollow">Magpie Attacks</a>!</li>
<li>Play your music at 10x slowdown, makes for good ambient listening. <a href="http://slowradio.rumblesan.com/" rel="nofollow">It’s up on GitHub if you want to do it to your own music collection</a>, currently Ogg-only :(</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Coté: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Follows" rel="nofollow"><em>It Follows</em></a>.</li>
</ul><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://ti.to/devopsaustralia/2016-sydney/discount/SDT2016">DevOpsDays</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://ti.to/devopsaustralia/2016-sydney/discount/SDT2016">DevOpsDays Australia is in Sydney, December 1st and 2nd. Listeners can get 20% off using the code SDT2016.</a> Promo Code: SDT2016</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://cote.io/pivotal/">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://cote.io/pivotal/">Check out free books from O'Reilly Pivotal on microservices, cloud foundry, and putting your cloud native strategy in place.</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://cote.io/cloud2/">Pivotal</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://cote.io/cloud2/">Check out Coté's work in progress, the ~50 page cloud native journey, edition two book. It coverers the common questions, best practices, and snarky takes on doing better software in large organizations.</a></li></ul>]]>
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